is it the end of directory? by GoogLE

Discussion in 'Directories' started by toby, Jun 15, 2007.

  1. #1
    Recently, google release the reporting spam link in which users can report someone who buy/sell links.

    Also google tries to make the result as useful as possible and put in a quality's guideline that no MFA/affiliates site etc. and in fact one of my site really tottally out of the index (even i put it the domainname and click search, it aint there., when i went into the google webmaster tool, i saw it said my site is not up to the quality and hence out of index).

    So the question is: Directory is reaching judgement day soon? i.e. only strong directory will be left but smaller one will render no value i.e. google considered it as a bought link?

    cheers.
    toby
     
    toby, Jun 15, 2007 IP
  2. britishguy

    britishguy Prominent Member

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    #2
    For all quality Directories the market is bouyant and strong and will continue that way for the short, medium and long term future

    Thats the market position and will continue to stay that way
     
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    an0n Prominent Member

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    #3
    This is google's will and judgement to ruin the internet.

    They are going to totally screw themselves over when competitors start calling foul on each other and everyone gets wiped out.
     
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    maldives Prominent Member

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    #4
    It takes time and lot of effort to brand it as a "strong directory". I don't think anything can be strong at the beginning.
     
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    britishguy Prominent Member

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    #5
    Bigger fish than G have been shipwrecked throughout history and there is no reason to assume that, if there is an imminent high seas buffetting that they would not break up into little pieces too just like the rest IBM Enron et al

    The little fish get very hungry when the seas get rough, and they eat up and scavenge anything in their path, especially if it is dictatorial predator
     
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    toby Notable Member

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    In a way, I think google made the right choice by making entry barrier harder and hence for those big big, old old and strong strong directory, they will be there forever but the newer players won't be able to be there too and even money CAN'T buy your way through to get top position in google now.

    In otherwords, to get top position with money, the only way to go is ADWORDS (hence google is the winner still) but smaller players who want to earn little by little by selling links are Not allowed in the playing ground.

    Is my theory right?
     
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    MeetHere Prominent Member

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    #7
    Not all directories will suffer penalty..

    Look here what matt Cutt said on http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/how-to-report-paid-links/
     
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    wamchu Peon

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    What ever google decide to do. Big and small directory will live on.
     
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    mikey1090 Moderator Staff

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    #9
    just wait....if they carry on like this people will be using yahoo instead....yahoo seems to like backlinks.

    looks like google shot themselves in the foot. they make an algorithm where baclinks are vital in SERPs, then realise webmasters traded links to improve their SERPs, and go semi backward....

    so if i want to ruin a directory owners business, do i just report their PR7 link buying to google?

    stupid....
     
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  10. centime

    centime Peon

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    #10
    Directories do not exist because of google,

    When I first decided to start in directories, and started coding it is asp, i had never heard of page rank

    Directories are in the search market, an if people are solely here for TBPR, well they might well be worried,

    but its a big internet out there, for those who can see it
     
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    jhnrang Notable Member

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    Well maintained directories will have relevance as long as internet lives. Google knows QBCs - who are trying to dupe everybody including Google --. So --it is not banning/de-indexing directories -
    Just asking directories to improve quality by way of higher standard of editorial reviews.:) I agree with toby - using $$$ power is no longer going to get you where it used to earlier. Bludgeoning your way is no more ON. It will be quality of both contents and links that would define the fate of a directory.
     
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    toby Notable Member

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    So in otherwords, I believe only a small number of people will benefit from it as not everyone would have energy/time and innovative idea to come up with the new big things that will be so useful to users. I think google is cheating on us coz last time i have heard that Google is helping the low end webmaster section as well as the high end; that's why they release the google adsense to everyone, not just those in the states or big webmaster (Like Yahoo and MSN does).




    I'm sorry but ONLY the big will live on.
     
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    pipes Prominent Member

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    #13
    I wouldn't worry too much about announcements that are made constantly, it can make us all nervous wrecks, apparently the world is going to end about once every year but where still here.

    Its predicted that something comes to an end in 2012, as far as im aware thats just the 10,000 year Mayan Calender.

    Things will continue to change, but our directories are not going to become useless or a waste of time.

    Sometimes you have to ask yourself if the rest of them are taking the p**s and keeping you worried while their busy making cash.

    Please do not allow a search engine to dictate to you constantly, abide by its rules but dont fear a rumour or virtual threat. :)
     
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    eric8476 Active Member

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    What makes a good directory is the directories evaluation of acceptable urls. if your a directory taking in urls just for page rank then what's the point of being a directory? Most people will just stick with google as their home page to search. If this is your play and you want to compete with google you really need a lot of offline ads, reinvesting to get big time servers to be self sustainable. If your just happy with the small business of your directory and are happy helping the little guy like me to get noticed then I have to say thank you for the help (and I really want to say thanks too ;)) riding the coat-tails of google should be no problem, thats a big reason why the platform is so useful, popular, and profitable anyway. But if google feels like your making a mess on their own product then they have the right to make changes. So its like 1)you have the perogative to do whatever you want with your directory site, but google has that perogative too but needs to keep with fair business rules required of large businesses (but how this falls into that evaluation i'm not sure about). 2)It would be in your best interests to be compliant to google's guidelines, but it is also in google's best interests to not get off track from the formula that has made it the best search engine for everyone. So what I think is that there will not be any major changes, only slight modifications at most will be needed for this. The reporting link I think should be weighted with google's level of suspicions of fraud along with being weighted with the total number of unique reports from the spam reporting link.
     
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    #15

    Is it so? Take Google and PR away ---and where is the business?:rolleyes:

    Whatever we say, how much we hate, how much we despise --its always the PR update that most directory owners look for --isn't?

    Without PR --very little business. So you like it --or hate it --Google is the one that shape the destiny of our business.

    So it is paramount for those directory owners --who want to survive to --somehow innovate and make their directories real resource sites for internet surfers --not just webmasters who want the PR juice.

    Of course its easier said than done:(
     
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    The Pheonix Banned

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    Problem is BB that we dont really know what Goggle will decide is a 'Quality' directory in THIER eyes not ours. Let's face reality here, there is no buoyancy and to say otherwise is folly. Just about keeping afloat yes, buoyant, not really.
     
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    Toby, if talking about wiping out the little guy like how home depot and loews are wiping out the mom and pop handy stores this is a little different. Those stores are not promoting little mom and pop stores in their stores but google is about that along with promoting the home depots of the world. It's about the sites (stores in this analogy) not just the products, giving the searcher on google the best variety and information available that includes the little guy- if they got good variety and information.
     
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    Good points, i respect that.:)
     
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    Well whatever G do or don't do,

    It will not impact on a professional run internet business either now or in the future :)

    And the market is more than bouyant, its vibrant and busy and will stay that way
     
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    Based on your comments below, do you believe that most directory owners willgive up if google acts against directories?

    Well, it would certainly be a lot quieter in this forum, but would those who have other idea's miss the

    "Google focused" folk


    who knows

    que sera sera




     
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