No, just assuming I know more of what the Bible says because I will accept God how He is and not try to change Him to be how I want Him to be. Wasn't it you that didn't believe me that God healed my wrists that I had suffered carpal tunnel for 3 years?
That's a total load of bollocks, your arguments make no sense to someone who either doesn't believe in god, or who rates human life higher than thier faith, which most people do one or both of, and quite rightly too. To base life affecting decisions on a book that was written hundreds of years ago by MORTALS is a fucking wreckless thing to do, and no amount of quotes from the said book is going to change that. An adult taking thier own life could be viewed as thier business, but an adult taking thier childs life for the sake of thier fatih should result in that adult being subject to the full penalty of the law, for murder, because that's exactly what it is.
Accuse all you like. Does not change the facts about what the Bible says is coming soon. Why would I ever want to change God? That's a preposterous statement. If I wanted to change God then I would have to have an agenda for doing so. Tell me, what would that agenda be exactly? Hmmm...would you mind linking to that post I made to show exactly what I said about that? I remember what I said. I am not sure you do? Col
I don't know anymore, with jw's and mormons calling themselves Christian along with TV evangelists using the name for money, I don't want to be called a Christian. I do follow Christ though, the Son of God, Jesus! Who offers forgiveness of sins.
I understand that in some cases there are options. In the case that there are no options other than taking several units of blood or letting a loved one die, which do you choose, blood or death? (Please do not regurgitate something from the Watchtower, just answer whether you would save the life or give them over to death)
That is interesting, I don't know to much about Islam so it is kind of cool to know details of what you believe. I am agnostic. We do not have 5 pillars of agnosticism, but if we did it would be something like this: 1~We have no idea if God does exist or does not 2~Do what you want 3~Do what you want 4~Do what you want 5~Do what you want Curious, what does Ramadan celebrate?
Lol! In Ramadan, the Satan and demons are shackled and people get a chance to go towards righteousness. So after the last fast, we celebrate the fact that God helped us to fast in the Ramadan. And anyway, there have to be occasions of happiness, eh? Another Eid is when every able head of a Muslim family slaughter goats, cows or camels in remembrance of Prophet Abraham (PBUH) because he was going to slaughter his only son when God asked him to. But later God replaced his son with a goat. The meat is put into three equal parts. One is given to the poor, one to the neighbours and relatives and one for ones own self. I can prove to you that God exists. Want me to?
That Sir is a loaded question. A similar type of question would be like "would you choose to kill a female baby or a male baby?" See how ridiculous a question that is? Let's call a spade a spade. You don't understand the importance of blood in regards to God's will. That's your choice. We have good, solid reasons for abstaining from the use of blood in this way. Medical and Biblical reasons. If you choose to ignore the evidence, then so be it. I only hope that one day soon you might do a bit further research. Col
If you could actually prove God exists, yes then prove it. You would be the only one in the world that can. There are even offers for proof of God's existence. Look here this man will pay you $10,000 for proof. Here is an offer for $100,000!
Would I kill a boy or a girl baby? Ummmmm, no I wouldn't kill a baby. Your question is ridiculous. My question was quite reasonable. Blood is important in what the Watchtower tell you to think. The Bible says something about it is not what goes into you that defiles you (Matthew 15:17-18). The Watchtower recently started allowing parts of blood to be used, I wonder which scripture the self appointed scholar-medical experts used to determine which corpuscle was a JW corpuscle and which was not. Here a site with a little more info on JW's and blood. As I read this quote from the Colombian president I was reminded of pagan religions that sacrificed children in the name of religion much like the Watchtower let's children die as part of their doctrine:
Lol! Its simple. Q1. What is the most complex thing man's intelligence could make? A: Car, computer, DVD, solar panel, rocket n blah blah. Q2. But has man's intelligence been able to make protoplasm? Protoplasm is the life-containing matter in all living things. A: NO! Q3. What is the simplest thing man made? A: A pin, a matchstick, a cloth, leather n blah blah. Q4. Has there ever been a matchstick that was made by itself? A: NO! Q5. What is the greatest marvel of intelligence in the entire universe? A. Man himself! Q6. Who made man? A. There is no other answer at this point than God! And I've not yet started on miracles. Because man himself is the greatest miracle in the universe. Look at yourself in the mirror and under the microscope. Everything in you is a miracle! Your eyes, ears, hands, nose, immune system and what not! And for those who say its all the result organic evolution. Ask them what is the probability of any two amino acids joining together? They'll have nothing to say because its almost zero! And every protein in your body has millions and millions of amino acids! Multiply it by the theory of probability and you'll find it equal to the probability of passing an elephant through the eye of a needle! But I would like to quote a single miracle from the Quran. You know Iron has three isotopes, iron-55, iron-56 and iron-57. And the chapter 57 of the Quran is named Iron! Even if you say its a coincidence of coincidences, what possible explanation can you give of the fact that in the same chapter Allah says that He sent Iron from the skies. Ask any astronomer where did iron come from and he'll tell you that it got fired from the skies due to massive explosions in the outer-space.
It is quite amazing the the qur'an mentions iron, however Iron does NOT come from outer space, the earths core is molten iron - its a naturally occuring substance here on earth, and it always has been, it didnt come from outer space.
Ahmad, Man's existence is not proof of God's existence. Man's existence can only be proof of man's existence, since we are not God. Try again...
http://www.ux1.eiu.edu/~cfjps/1400/solar_origin.html http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Heavy_Metals_Rich_Stars_Tend_To_Harbor_Planets.html It says that the metals came from outer space. The earth was hot and they melted and sank to the bottom due to their high densities. Makes sense to you?
Don't hold back tell us how you feel! Your argument, full of emotion though it is, does not hold scripturally (not that you care because you don't accept a Higher Authority) but neither does it hold medically or legally. Medically it is accepted that blood is to be avoided at all costs and the medical profession is doing all that it can to avoid the use of blood (not just for JW's but for everyone). Recent issues with regard to particularly vCJD which as yet cannot be traced in donor blood have meant that stringent care has to be used to avoid blood where possible. If you sugggest (wrongly) that JW parents just let their children die because of blood, what are your thought about the problems caused to haemophiliacs in particularly Canada and France due to the use of blood products? What are your thoughts regarding thse who have dies as a direct result of vCJD contracted through blood products? What are your thoughts about those killed as a result of being transfused the wrong blood? Have a look at the following that is taken from the British Medical Journal and deals with reports from the Serious Hazards of Transfusion initiative ... (yes there is a Committee setup to analyse and report on the serious hazards of transfusion!). BMJ or, BMJ - Serious Errors Over 50% of all transfusion errors result from people being given the wrong blood! What is your view on that and what should be done to those administering that blood? What about the 15 deaths directly as a result of errors in blood transfusion outlined here? Deaths Some useful informed reading to overcome raging paranoia can be found here:- nataonline sabm Pisa University Let me know if you need more, there's plenty ... articles, videos, medical papers etc.
Firstly you won't find any 'regurgitated' Watchtower material in my replies. However I have the greatest respect for the Watchtower's desire to put God and His commandments first in importance. Most people today do not chose to put God first in their lives and will do anything to put themselves first, the Watchtower rightly shows from the bible that it is important to be obedient to God, "For this is what the love of God means, that we observe his commandments; and yet his commandments are not burdensome." (1 John 5:3). Now you can chose to put God first in your life or you can chose to put yourself first in your life, everyone has free choice. Do I put God first in my life? Yes I do. Does this extend to issues relating to blood? Yes it does. Would I chose to break Gods commandments to save my life or the life of a relative? No I wouldn't. What would Jesus think about that? "Whoever does not accept his torture stake and follow after me is not worthy of me. He that finds his soul will lose it, and he that loses his soul for my sake will find it." (Matthew 10:38,39) "Really, of what benefit is it for a man to gain the whole world and to forfeit his soul?" (Mark 8:36) "For whoever wants to save his soul will lose it; but whoever loses his soul for my sake is the one that will save it" (Luke 9:24) "I am the fine shepherd; the fine shepherd surrenders his soul in behalf of the sheep" (John 10:11) {Yes, God required the death of his Son, Jesus, in order to bring salvation to mankind ... presumably your feelings are the same toward Him as they are toward the unknown JW parents that you use to illustrate your complaint?} Let me ask you - do you personally know of any cases where someone has died directly as a result of refusing a blood transfusion? And what of all those that have died from receiving blood transfusions, what is your view about that?