Logical Fallacies, Formal and Informal

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Briant, Jun 15, 2007.

  1. #1
    Since it's nearing supposed "truce" time, I have a gift. Seeing how arguments can be manipulated may be helpful, not to win points in DP debates, but in your decernment. So when Fox Noobs distorts, you can truly decipher :D

    Some of you may have seen this link buried in a long thread, but I think it deserves to see the light so that others may as well :cool:

    http://theautonomist.com/aaphp/permanent/fallacies.php


    I thought this would in some way be related to republican moralizers and their "family values." :D
     
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  2. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #2
    Briant can't win on facts, so he decides to attack form instead. Is that the point of this post? ;)
     
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  3. Briant

    Briant Peon

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    #3
    Logic, reason...what was I thinking :confused: :D
     
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    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #4
    So not facts. Gotcha.
     
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  5. Toopac

    Toopac Peon

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    #5
    A lot of people use that excuse for example you mean like when people say look at how many people have died due to the war on terror in comparision to those killed on 9/11, who's the bigger terrorist?
     
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  6. Briant

    Briant Peon

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    #6
    The link deals with fallacies. So you will have no more excuse for begging the question, etc. Facts can be used to lie just like falsehoods can be, which is part of the point.
     
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  7. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #7
    I agree that facts do seem to be the enemy of you, AGS and others in the forum. Works that way sometimes.
     
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  8. AGS

    AGS Notable Member

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    #8
    I can't see the truce working buddy, not with these utterly insane neocon supporting lunatics around.
     
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  9. Briant

    Briant Peon

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    #9
    Yeah, I know. I was just doing it to say, "I tried." :D

    Of course, putting a link about logical fallacies may not have been the best tactic--it seems to be upsetting them :D
     
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  10. Toopac

    Toopac Peon

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    #10
    I can't either it's 01:30 right now in the UK, a full 1 hour & 30 minutes after the truce & you still have not said a bad word about a terrorist, you do remember the role reversal you mentioned?
     
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  11. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #11
    Shhh, Toopac! OK, here's a teaser :D

    AGS, looks like some more of your buds were locked up today.

    in 5, 4, 3, 2 .....
     
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  12. Toopac

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    #12
    If you mean years it may just be possible for him to say something bad about them, though it's looking doubtful:(
     
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    #13
    Another al-CIAda general locked up eh GTech? :D
     
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    #14
    If one supports terroists he might claim that, but claiming that isn't role reversal as you supported these types before.
     
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  15. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    Yep, virtually every post now, AGS confirms he supports them by giving their credit away to others. He wouldn't think of saying a bad word about one of his buds!
     
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  16. Briant

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    #16
    http://theautonomist.com/aaphp/permanent/fallacies.php#wickedalt

    Also known as false dilemma:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma

    This is clearly one of you guys' favorites.
     
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  17. Toopac

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    #17
    Briant take your links elsewhere please we are trying to give AGS treatment & your not helping matters:(
     
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  18. Briant

    Briant Peon

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    #18
    :D
    I think this last bit is a combination of ignoratio elenchi and good old ad hominem.

    As far as therapy goes...Toopac heal thyself :D
     
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  19. AGS

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    #19
    I have TWO PACKS on ignore mate so I can't say I miss his posts.

    He's usually chasing GTech around and posting identicle to him so I'm not missing anything at the end of the day. :p
     
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  20. Toopac

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    #20
    I'm really frustrated that hamas has me on ignore:rolleyes:
     
    Toopac, Jun 15, 2007 IP