Ron Paul on The Colbert Report 6-13-07

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Briant, Jun 14, 2007.

  1. GRIM

    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #21
    I care more about constitutional freedoms than I do about 'terror' ;) Simple and to the point answer.

    BTW those sitting in the white house now didn't get the threat either, and still dont' in my opinion..
     
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  2. LinkSales

    LinkSales Active Member

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    #22
    Whats wrong with his foreign policy?

    The reason we are getting attacked by terrorists is because of our foreign policy.

    Non-involvement works, just ask Switzerland or Luxembourg.
     
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  3. Briant

    Briant Peon

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    #23
    You guys really need to rework your clichés :rolleyes: And most of what you think is a conspiracy is just reality. NAU conspiracy? I have posted the Foreign Affairs article about that before. As for truthers and nutters, if you think JFK was killed by Oswald and Oswald alone, you are disagreeing with essentially everyone, even the US government.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Commission

    Of course, long after it's possible to do anything about it, the truth will come out and it will be called self-evident...typical :rolleyes:
     
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    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #24
    Its because of our previous foreign policy, which was to give them whatever they wanted...do you want me to post the pictures of albright from the clinton admin with kim jong il? Clinton did everything he could to destroy our military and to give terrorist regimes whatever they wanted.
     
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    AGS Notable Member

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    #25
    Most of these clowns are so busy defending the miserable failure Bush 24/7 Briant that they are missing pretty much everything that is going on. :rolleyes:

    Choosing to label everything a "conspiracy" lol. :rolleyes:
     
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  6. GRIM

    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #26
    :rolleyes:
    I hated Clinton but come on all because of Clinton, sure. Got any bridges to sell us?

    Now I know why I stay out of these theads, the BS is so thick I can't even breath, much less type.
     
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  7. LinkSales

    LinkSales Active Member

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    #27
    I'd go further back. I'd say we really started messing up post WWII with Israel. After WWII we thought since we were the only country not in total shambles that we might as well run the world. Big mistake, we should have never gotten involved in post WWII anything.
     
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  8. Briant

    Briant Peon

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    #28
    You'd think he'd have to pay them; it's like they are his spokesmen :rolleyes:
     
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  9. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #29
    It was. Are you sure about that?

    Here is the short list of Bin Laden's demands:
    Some of the hijackers said they were involved because of Bosnia, where we helped muslims. Them attacking us is a function of their religion, nothing more. They god demands it; so they do it.

    But, let's take the beaten wife theory to its ends. Do you agree that we should cede to Bin Laden's demands, lest we get attacked again? Yes or no?

    Thanks Briant for making my point for me. RP supporters on this forum, almost every one of them are 9/11 truthers. If Paul represents his supporters, then he's a bad candidate.

    Heh. I love your paragraph there. Where does it say the government believes it was a conspiracy? I see faulty evidence, inconclusive recordings, etc. Where is this belief of yours actually coming from?
     
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  10. Briant

    Briant Peon

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    #30
    They are taking baby steps toward the truth. So one day they will be able to claim they sorted it out and if you don't believe in a conspiracy you are the nutter. And by then anyone who would likely have been involved will be dead.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Harvey_Oswald

    http://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/warren-commission-report/chapter-4.html#marine

    Not exactly a great shot huh?
     
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    stOx Notable Member

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    #31
    Wow, Yeah that really is a "threat".... They attacked America once, What? 7 years ago? man it really is dangerous over there right now, What with all those Islamic terrorist attacks you guys get.. Like the one you had 7 years ago which was the first time ever... Still, Give up some more rights, some more freedom and change the constitution to read simply "bush owns my ass" and I'm sure that will stop the "terrorists".

    You still here? Sorry, I thought the "Islamic terrorists" got ya.....
     
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  12. lorien1973

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    #32
    I totally agree. If you mean by truth, "evidence which was later found to be unreliable". Truth, by your definition, is right. You make a great point.

    How many of his shots hit where he wanted? Wasn't it 1 shot that was on target and he fired 3 or 4 or something? So, I agree, he wasn't a great shot. He was good enough, wasn't he. That is all that matters.

    1993 - wtc attacked, 6 killed, over 1000 injured
    1996- khobar towers - 19 americans dead, hundreds wounded
    1998- tanzania - 224 dead, 4500 injured
    2000 - uss cole attacked, 17 sailors killed
    2001 - over 3000 killed, wtc destroyed, pentagon hit

    Need a list of the minor ones too? Or did you have another defense of Hamas you'd like to bring up too?
     
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    stOx Notable Member

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    #33
    So twice then... You do know that Tanzania and Khobar aren't in america and the USS cole is a military target, Right? (sadly you probably didn't)
     
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  14. Briant

    Briant Peon

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    #34
    That's called "begging the question." BTW, you realize Oswald wasn't shooting at moving targets with a bolt action rifle at Marine Corps firing ranges, don't you?
     
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    #35
    US embassies are considered sovereign territory of the US. An attack there is the same as an attack on our soil.

    The cole was on a refueling stop. it was not on a military mission.

    No big whoop, right? Amazing how you lambast Israel for killing 600 civilians, but when a terrorist group kills over 3000 americans; you are like "so what"

    Why do you consistently defend terrorists and minimize what they do in each thread you participate in?
     
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    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #36
    No, that is not begging the question, Briant. Please learn the proper use of the phrase or you look silly.

    Do you realize that the path Kennedy was travelling on on the road was almost a straight line away from the depository?
     
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  17. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #37
    Here's a few, just from this week alone:

    http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

    It's all about Iraq...and India and the Sudan and Algeria and Afghanistan and New York and Pakistan and Israel and Russia and Chechnya and the Philippines and Indonesia and Nigeria and England and Thailand and Spain and Egypt and Bangladesh and Saudi Arabia and Ingushetia and Dagestan and Turkey and Kabardino-Balkaria and Morocco and Yemen and Lebanon and France and Uzbekistan and Gaza and Tunisia and Kosovo and Bosnia and Mauritania and Kenya and Eritrea and Syria and Somalia and California and Argentina and Kuwait and Virginia and Ethiopia and Iran and Jordan and United Arab Emirates and Louisiana and Texas and Tanzania and Germany and Australia and Pennsylvania and Belgium and Denmark and East Timor and Qatar and Maryland and Tajikistan and the Netherlands and Scotland and Chad and Canada and China and...

    And AGS defends it all.
     
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    stOx Notable Member

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    #38
    What exactly does a guided missile destroyer do then? Deliver flowers? Perhaps the sailors were doing a rendition of good ship lollipop for the Yemeni folks. ahh, Good times... It's a warship you clown, if you sail around in other people countries in a f'ing war ship you better be prepared for some war!

    The funny thing is you are quite happy to dish it out, but when it comes and bites you on your ass you complain for the next 20 years about being unfairly treated. When your cowards kill people from 15,000 feet you call them heroes, But when people turn around and slap you across the face you call them terrorists.
     
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  19. Briant

    Briant Peon

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    #39
    http://skepdic.com/begging.html

    http://www.consideritdone.cc/dealey.html
     
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  20. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #40
    Probably because his quran tells him to. Could be, because he got a similar memo that briant is working from.
     
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