17 year old girl stoned to death for falling in love with the wrong boy

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  1. adnan

    adnan Peon

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    #221
    Actually I don't think so.

    Have you heard of any story of muslims stoning somebody?


    I can't even imagine what that girl went thru.

    I'm going out to smoke a cig and catch some fresh air.

    This was too much for me.
     
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  2. kafer

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    #222
    That's right:mad: This is allowed within certain Islamic groups, but it's not a common practice.

    In theory an adult man can legally marry a baby girl and do what you said. This will not be counted as a sin.

    However if you use your hand to masturbat3 that would count as a big sin!
     
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  3. samantha pia

    samantha pia Prominent Member

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    #223
    right. so what do i have to be sorry for? the wrong girls stoned or the wrong baby girl thighed?
    do i look like i'm gonna say sorry for child abuses in both cases?

    not on your life
     
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  4. samantha pia

    samantha pia Prominent Member

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    #224
    go back and read the first page again, you'll see a 19 year old was stoned and shot, and her 6 month baby daughter toss in the river. her crime? having a phone number on her cell phone that didnt belong to a family member
     
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  5. krakjoe

    krakjoe Well-Known Member

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    #225
    You people fucking crack me up, you fuckin go on about wanting the world to accept you, and how your religion is a peaceful one, and then you go round cutting peoples throats, killing and raping children, abducting soldiers, and you actually are stupid enough to believe that the rest of the world will accept you.

    Your faith is barbaric, you definately need a new one, or none at all, surely it would be better to burn in hell for eternity than associate yourself with baby rapists and killers ........
     
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  6. adnan

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    #226

    I don't see anything like that on the first page.

    I see you typed a message about 64 women being killed, but the link you provided doesn't say a single word about anything like that.


    Plus, acts like this happen more because of illiterate people and the govenment not taking action, as opposed to practicing a religion.

    I mean, if u go back in history, I heard in India, they used to burn live women if their husbands died. If I remember correctly the term was 'Sati'

    If I remember correctly in the United States, during the settler era women were burned being thought as witches.

    Something of that nature happened in China as well, can't remember what.
     
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  7. krakjoe

    krakjoe Well-Known Member

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    #227
    Actually Sati was/is self sacrifice....although I'm sure it was forced upon some.....

    I don't think it's too much to do with uneducation, you don't throw rocks at a dying childs head because you're uneducated, you do it to please your god.

    A government that is run by a religious book is a corrupt one, the book is a lie, and so thier government is a lie.
     
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  8. GRIM

    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #228
    http://www.stophonourkillings.com/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1667

    http://www.kwrw.org/

    http://www.peacewomen.org/news/Iraq/May05/honour.html

    http://rwor.org/a/090/honor-killing-en.html

    http://www.now.org/nnt/summerfall-2005/iraqiwomen.html ---something I had previously brought up to deaf ears 'Go Bush, Go bush' :rolleyes:

    Just a few good reads.

    Interesting and sickening, since the US invaded honour killings are on the rise. We have empowered the clerics who advocate this shit! BTW according to my readings this is very much Islam, in fact the girl was not muslim but her faith shares many key beliefs with Islam, take that any way you wish.
     
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  9. adnan

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    #229

    This wasn't done to please any god.

    If u read the cnn article I linked, the girl was Yazidi, she was killed by her relatives.

    I don't know where ur getting your insights from but don't know of any religious book says u go out and stone 17 yr old girls.

    A corrupt government is one which doesn't doesn't take necessary measures to control law an order, even when it can. I think that is a better definition of corruption.
     
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  10. w3bmaster

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    #230
    That's terifying

    Cruel world and stupid rules
     
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  11. adnan

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    #231

    This wasn't done to please any god.

    If u read the cnn article I linked, the girl was Yazidi, she was killed by her relatives.

    I don't know where ur getting your insights from but don't know of any religious book that says u go out and stone 17 yr old girls to death.

    Self sacrifice meaning the widow really has a choice not to be burned with her husband? Can she just vote no in the ballot box and drive away in her Honda?

    A corrupt government is one which doesn't doesn't take necessary measures to control law an order, even when it can. I think that is a better definition of corruption.
     
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  12. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #232

    Over 2000 relatives??? - and not included those who couldn't make it in time to attend the festive religious event.

    - even it is not a purely islamic religion, it carries the fingerprints of sharia law in this particular case.

    Any islamic outrage over this?
     
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  13. The Webmaster

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    #233
    Who cares?? Every single human cares.. and if you ask who cares, you are not a human of any degree...

    Someone has to be worse than a barbaric blood thirsty scum life if s/he say who cares of a barbaric end of an innocent girl...

    Its height of pervertness.. being with a woman or man means sex??
    Dude, Almost every single educated person in the civilized world go to school/college/university and makes friends both girl and boys. They all remain friends but never have sex.. How can you say being with a woman or man equates to sex..

    Certainly you never had a chance to peek into civilised world..

    Besides Islam permits a man and woman being together if the woman permits the man to suck her boobs.. (That said a highly reputed muslim scholar of Iran)
     
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  14. Firegirl

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    #234
    Man, I am not a weenie by any means, but when I watched that video, I cried for that girl. I can't even imagine what she must have been feeling and thinking laying there on the ground in front of so many getting kicked and beat by her own people.

    "Why isn't my family helping me?"

    "Isn't anyone going to stop this?"

    "Please don't kill me. I don't want to die!"

    "What have I done that was so wrong to deserve this!"

    Really puts life in perspective. I have been stressing over work changes, website work, and other things that just seem stupid to worry about after seeing this. I am so thankful for being an American and for being a free woman...

    And for the men that did that to her....I hope there is a special place where they will burn and rot forever. Karma is a bitch and I hope they get to die as scared and shamed as she did....
     
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  15. The Webmaster

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    #235
    Yes..

    Plenty of them..
    Here is the link to another video that can make you feel seek (This time Islamic Stoning)
    http://www.apostatesofislam.com/media/video/stoning-original.wmv

    Warning! This is an extremely sick and disgusting punishment, and thus watching this video can make you weak or possibly give you nausea and shock for several days. Please do not watch if you are weak-hearted.

    The information on this video
    http://www.apostatesofislam.com/media/stoning.htm

    More About Muslim Stoning
    http://www.steinigung.org/artikel/icas_what_is_stoning_.htm

    And how they defend it
    http://www.jannah.org/morearticles/4.html

    Where Stoning is legal punishment
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoning
     
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  16. GUESTID

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    #236
    There should be a Policy

    Person involved to be Shot Dead .

    This is totally sick , even HITLER would be against this .
     
    GUESTID, Jun 14, 2007 IP
  17. miko67

    miko67 Well-Known Member

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    #237
    No, we do not "go with" any "anti-gun BS". I just stated the fact that with fewer guns around in a society, fewer innocent people gets killed. It is a fact. Like the fact that most gun victims are killed by close relatives or friends. Think about that for just a second. Then make up your own mind on the matter. Don't put other people down for stating facts or voicing opinions.

    Not necessarily. All though I fail to understand religious schooling as part of the "need for education" that I'm speaking for. As for living standards... Cell phones come at a dollar a piece these days. Even during the worst of African hunger disasters you could see the odd color TV in a village of mud huts. This is not an important fact. What is important, is the fact that with increasing overall living standards in a society - Especially when measuring living standards of the poorest half of that society - violence will tend to decline.

    Blinded, Yes indeed. I so agree with you. As for being part of the human race... I too would not like to see myself categorised as coming from the same biological family of creatures as people who can act like that, no thank you.

    Still, reacting with outrage threatening to kill the ones that kill others seems counterproductive.

    What would you have our great leaders do, really? I mean long term strategies.

    /miko67
     
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  18. Arnie

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    #238
    Just a fraction of what's going on and these are only a few headlines the media has caught up with.


    13-Year-Old Girl Who 'Dared' Attend School Savagely Killed

    American Women Warned of Sex Attacks in Syria...

    Hamas Seeks Islamic Caliphate in Gaza...

    CAIR Denies Numbers Decrease, Claims 'Free' Memberships...

    Taliban Shave Heads, Blacken Faces of Paraded 'Bandits'...

    Wahhabis Spread 'Extremism' in Russia...

    Two UN Workers Shot to Death in Gaza...

    Hate Preached in '500' Radical Islamic Centers in the U.S...

    Pal. Jihadis Send Pregnant Mother of 8 on Suicide Mission...

    Morality and Bombing Go Hand-in-Hand in NW Pakistan...

    More Buddhists Killed by Muslims - One Beheaded...

    Hamas Blows Up Fatah HQ, Many Killed as Gaza Spirals...

    Christian Seeks Asylum to Avoid Muslim Torture (Egypt)...

    al-Qaeda Bombs Revered Iraqi Shia Mosque - Again...

    (India) Muslim Girls Risk Life for Education...

    Iran Cracks Down on the Bahai Minority...

    Australia's New Mufti Denies Muslims Responsible for 9/11...

    'Urine Fatwa' Underscores Clerical Disarray in Islam...

    Hamas Kills 3 Women and a 14-Year-Old Boy...

    Italian Priest Kidnapped in the Philippines...

    Dirty Bomber Defense: 'Jihad' Means Humanitarianism...

    CAIR Membership Down 90% Since 9/11...

    (US) Prisons Pull Christian Books to Offset Ban of Jihad Materials

    (UK) Chilling Video of Daughter Predicting Her Own Killing...

    Kurdish Women Still Need Hubby to Sign Permission Slip...

    3 Buddhist Teachers Gunned Down by the Religion of Peace...

    Albanian Muslims Welcome Bush...

    Palestinians Kill 616 Palestinians Since Hamas Election...

    New Fatwa Bars Palestinians from Fleeing Territories...

    Hezbollah Re-Arms, Digs in as UN Watches...

    (UK) Soldiers Abused by Muslim Women at Troops Hospital...

    al-Qaeda Declares Holy War on India...

    Dutch Party Demands Study on Driving with Veils...

    (UK) Book Alleges Diana Consid-ered 'Converting' to Islam While Sleeping with Muslim Doctor...

    Palestinians Paralyze 5-Year-Old Girl with Stone...

    (Canada) Toddler Gets Reprieve from Genital Mutilation...

    'Lazy' Maid Tortured to Death in Saudi...

    Syria Offers to Return Captured Israelis...

    (UK) Four Charged in Honor Killing

    (UK) Editorial Urges Londoners to Bend Over, Grease Up...

    FL: Murder Charges Brought in Dragging of African-American...

    (US) Is Keith Ellison a Security Risk?...

    Blair's Lockerbie 'Deal' Emits Odor...

    (Nigeria) No Justice for Murdered Christian Woman...

    'No Compulsion in Religion' (Just Prison for Not Converting)...

    Dutch Jihadis Catch Their Breath...

    Lockerbie Bomber Killed 270 - Released After 7 Years...

    Denmark Rules Judges Can Wear Veils...

    (Malaysia) List Released of Newly Banned Books on Islam...

    RAF Pilots Told to Nix Glam Girl Pics from Planes...

    (UK) Sikh Girl Under Guard from Muslim Gang...

    Brits Put 'Muhammad' First...

    Female Head of a Girls School Shot to Death by Fundamentalists

    University of Michigan to Build Foot-Baths with Public Funds...

    Jihad Supplier and Terror Suspect Called 'Humanitarian'...

    American TV Show Features Disgraced British Journalist...

    al-Qaeda 'Hunting' Christians in Kurdistan...

    Witness: Missing Leg First Clue that Islamic Charity Not Legit...

    Arabs Blame ALL Problems on 1967 War Against Israel...

    Afghan Doctor Beheaded by the Taliban...

    Arrest in the Dragging Murder of African-American Woman...

    (AUS) Young Muslims 'Shop Around' for Jihad Fatwas...

    1 in 4 UK Muslims: 7/7 Bombings a Government Conspiracy...

    Islamists Execute Four People for Adultery...

    Iranian Minister Backs Prostitution...

    CAIR Named as Unindicted Co-Conspirator in Terror Funding...

    (Indonesia) More Churches Attacked, Forced to Close...

    Catholic Priest Shot to Death by Islamists in Iraq...

    4-Year-Old Girl Killed as Ex-Separatists Targeted in Indonesia...

    NH Muslims Preach Tolerance [for Polygamy]...

    NY Times Buries News of JFK Terror Plot...

    Saudi Maids Forced to Wear Veils...

    Arizona Muslim Racks Up $287,000 over Head Scarf Ban...

    (UK) Airport Security Guards Filmed Sleeping on the Job...

    NYC Plotters 'Aimed to Kill Thousands'...

    Gaza Women Warned to Cover Up or Face 'Slaughter'...

    Former Gitmo Inmate Behind Family's Massacre (Pakistan)...

    Sudan Threatens War on Cola - Says 'None' are Dying in Darfur...

    Man Switched at Birth Wants Out of Islam...

    Beheading Buddhists the New Rage in Thailand...

    (India) Muslims Blame Israel for Muslim Bombing of Muslims...

    Feds Bust Religion of Peace Plot to Blow Up NYC Airport...

    CAIR Seethes Over High School Yearbook Prank...

    (UK) Academics Vow Not to Impede Islamic Extremism...

    'Army of Islam' Releases Video of Kidnapped Reporter...

    Christian Sentenced to Death for 'Blaspheming' Muhammad...

    Sunni Iraqis Ask for U.S. Help Against al-Qaeda...

    Islamists Abduct Pakistani Schoolchildren for Jihad...

    Malaysia Criticized for Denying Freedom of Conscience...

    Nation of Islam May Support Genocidal Regime in Sudan...

    Hindu Father and Daughter Murdered, Burned in California...

    (Pakistan) Bill Proposes to Kill Any Man Who Leaves Islam...

    Survey: 80% of Muslims Believe There is a War on Islam...

    Mother Offered 5-Month-Old Baby to Allah as Terror Martyr...

    Vatican Lobbies for Turkey's Admission to the EU...

    Turkey: Six Arrested Over Plot to Kill Christian Pastor...

    (Iraq) Mahdi Army Imposes Veil on Non-Muslim Women...

    Malaysia Officially Bars Muslims from Leaving Islam...

    Dutch Paint Pointers to Mecca on Floors of Jail Cells...

    Report Confirms Dry Terror Run in the U.S...

    Islamic Society of Boston Drops Lawsuit to Avoid Disclosure...

    Syria Sends Armed Jihadis into Lebanon...

    Iran Arrests 14,635 in Dress Code Crackdown...

    Ft. Dix Tipster Reports 'Moral Dilemma'...

    Arab Gang-Rapists 'Plant Tomatoes' in African Women...

    Islamists Vow to Counter 'Un-Islamic' Internet with Violence

    Friendship Match Turns Ugly...

    Polygamy Multiplying in Britain...

    U.S. Troops Free 42 Iraqis from al-Qaeda Torture Cell...

    Malaysian Court May Force Christian to 'Return' to Islam...

    War on Culture: Islamists Gun Down Leading Calligrapher...

    Palestinians Murder Father of 2-Year-Old Girl...

    al-Qaeda Leader Urges Holy War Across the Middle East...

    Dead Lovers Found in a Box...

    Fatah al-Islam: We're 'Ready to Blow Up Every Place in Lebanon'...

    New York Muslim Teens Assault Sikh Student...

    Fatah al-Islam Using Palestinians as Human Shields...

    Same-Sex Couple Threatens Suicide (Pakistan)...

    Soldier Survives Pork Sandwich Nightmare...

    (UK) Cleric Loses Bid to Stay in the Country He Hates...

    France Tries Paying Muslims to Leave...

    US: Homeland Security Money Going to Mosques...

    Canadian Islamists to Use Islamic Banking as Sharia Foothold...

    al-Qaeda Cartoon Torture Manual Found...

    Clerics Pool Money to Fund Poet's Beheading...

    UK: Kebab Theory Persists in Schoolgirl Killing...

    Freedom Fighters Take Out a Funeral Procession...

    NL: Muslim Students Exempted from Shaking Christian Hands...

    Auto-Wudu Washer Hits the Streets...

    (US) MPAC Connection to MSA Praise for Bin Laden...

    Leading Democrat Claims U.S. Waging 'War on Islam'...

    Report: At Least 70% of 'Iraqi-Insurgents' Not Iraqi...

    Man Beats Wife to Death with Pipe - Court Commutes Sentence

    Freedom Fighters Massacre Family of 6, Including 4 Children...

    Christians Survive Religion of Peace Church Burning...

    Iran Fighting Proxy War in Iraq...

    Only 68% of US Muslims Have Unfavorable Opinion of al-Qaeda...

    Poll: 1 in 4 Younger Muslim-Americans Justify Terrorism...

    Hug Costs Pakistan's Tourism Minister Her Job...

    Breastfeeding Fatwa Fizzles...

    Iranian Police Beat 'Improperly Dressed' Woman...

    White al-Qaeda Tells African-Americans to Stick it to Whitey...

    Iran Accuses Cannes Film Festival of Being 'Anti-Cultural'...

    Beirut Bombing Kills 63-Year-Old Woman in Christian District...
     
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  19. kafer

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    #239


    That's why I left!
    That's why I proudly call myself Kafer.;)
    I don't need a new one thank you very much, I'm doing much better without.
     
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  20. The Webmaster

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    #240
    I dont believe in Karma...

    Those filthy Animals would be wandering on the street right now with broad chest.. Their blood thirsty eyes would be looking for another easy victim that they can slay to satisfy their manhood.
    They all would be being praised by Local public and Imams for putting an end to a shameful life.
    They all would be jerking off on the memories of the killing of that innocent girl.
    Some of them would be regretting that they didn't have the chance to fuck her before she died..

    Sounds sick? Yeah because its all sick.. its sick sick world out there..

    Nothing is going to happen to those bastards.. they will be free forever to kill and torture their women... thats how its goes...
     
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