Should Seomoz.org (Page Strength) be added to the Quick Buck Crew site?

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Should Seomoz.org (Page Strength) be added to the Quick Buck Crew site?

  1. Yes, include then

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  2. No, don't include then

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  3. Who cares?

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  1. terryuk

    terryuk Notable Member

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    #61
    I personally think it was a good idea for THEM bringing it into paid after having it free, whether they are having server troubles or not. Great link bait :)
     
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  2. ! Ask !

    ! Ask ! Peon

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    #62
    I would do it myself if I had time, But I am searching for someone trustworthy to code this tool for me.

    Right in the nail they should never had given it for free :), and if they want to charge they should put it work 100%
     
    ! Ask !, Jun 12, 2007 IP
  3. Gnet

    Gnet Peon

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    #63
    Be careful there...i just got dooped for 400 bux..
     
    Gnet, Jun 12, 2007 IP
  4. onlinedude

    onlinedude Peon

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    #64
    Added my thoughts to this debate here:

    http://www.avivadirectory.com/downloadblog/?p=302

    While it is sad that Rand has done this, he certainly has not done anything wrong. I think that the credibility of the QBC site will be harmed by lumping people like Rand in with fraudsters and thieves.
     
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  5. a7a7

    a7a7 Well-Known Member

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    #65
    but, google is free.:)

    Firstly, they do not have ANY authority to predict pagerank or anything... all they do is 'PREDICT'.

    Google pagerank is important and has its weight because it comes form biggest authority... google itself. And fact that you can freely and easily detect your pr makes it so special and talked about.

    secondly, you mix pr with alexa and backlink and domain age... and use some forumla and give some number and then call it as "page strength"... then its OUR dumbness to consider and give any weight to it. Because i dont think any webmaster is fool enough who himself cannot predict where is home page and PR going.

    And as others said... saying that we are out of bandwidth is the biggest blunder they made. lol
     
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  6. Gnet

    Gnet Peon

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    #66

    but adwords isnt :)
     
    Gnet, Jun 12, 2007 IP
  7. ! Ask !

    ! Ask ! Peon

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    #67
    I am a firm supporter that people can do whatever they want with their sites, and should try to monetize their ideas the best way they know.

    I never added to site I just asked the question :) I shed some light on the subject, and I think that by opening up the debate this will benefit all.

    I share your opinion that Seomoz just killed the tool, at the moment I am looking for someone to code a better tool than PS ever was, and probably others are already working on it.

    Let’s see how the market reacts.
     
    ! Ask !, Jun 12, 2007 IP
  8. silencer

    silencer Notable Member

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    #68
    Agree. You cannot label someone as a Quick Buck Chuck, if they have developed and created the idea. If you were to take their idea and then charge people to use it on your site then that's a different story.

    The tool has been around for a long time, as a free tool, and it was probably time to make it paid. However, one would hope that any money that SEOMoz makes from people purchasing the use of the tool will go into developing it further so that more accurate results are obtained. I can honestly say that I never ever got a correct result from using the tool, despite it being quite a clever collection of data.

    I do agree with Jeff though in his blog post that the popularity of the tool will dwindle now that it is no longer free. That is the nature of these things, but I don't believe it belongs in the QBC basket.
     
    silencer, Jun 12, 2007 IP
  9. a7a7

    a7a7 Well-Known Member

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    #69
    Adwords is a service backed with world class application and software. it just works! :)

    and, more importantly... its not as simple as adding pr, alexa, domain age, and backlink and making a conclusion. All i am intending is to say is if it is paid... then it should give me something very seriously good... i know their other tools may be good.. but still.. this page strength thing... it just doesn't deserver any money... as adwords deserve. ;)
     
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  10. Gnet

    Gnet Peon

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    #70
    adwords is the only reason google is alive today.
    ill say it again, nothing in this world is free.
     
    Gnet, Jun 12, 2007 IP
  11. maldives

    maldives Prominent Member

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    #71
    Cery good post! It is a shame that they keep charging people while the tools produces faulty results.
     
    maldives, Jun 12, 2007 IP
  12. a7a7

    a7a7 Well-Known Member

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    #72
    what if firefox started to charge after they become popular? they had every reason to! they were not buggy.. and their software just worked.

    at the end of the day... its not about paid or not paid... or... free or not free... its about whether that thing deserves it?? page strenght doesn't deserve anything. its buggy and its just mix of pr, alexa.. etc as i said... everybody can do it.
     
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  13. Gnet

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    #73
    i wont care, ill pay if i have to, i love using it.
    its just like at the ice cream shop you get a free taste then you gotta buy it.

    a free world is a third world imo.
     
    Gnet, Jun 12, 2007 IP
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    #74
    What amazes me the most is that such intelligent internet marketing people can do such a bad business decision (IMHO)
     
    ! Ask !, Jun 12, 2007 IP
  15. Gnet

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    #75

    Its not always as it may seem on the surface, how can you predict what they have in store?
     
    Gnet, Jun 12, 2007 IP
  16. a7a7

    a7a7 Well-Known Member

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    #76
    Well, thats where the point is!!

    you appreciate it and dont mind paying for it... because of OTHER things in the store. Its a different story... as i mentioned earlier... i accept i dont know how good the OTHER stuff are... but still forcing us to pay for their other good stuff just to use this crappy thing (which is actually totally useless) is a bad business.
     
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  17. britishguy

    britishguy Prominent Member

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    #77
    Gee like I said before I don't have the intellectual capacity to absorb why a free tool turned paid tool, is the subject of such intense debate.

    Am I missing out on something good here as on dozen attempts to get this tool to return results when accessed from Asia, it has never worked, however maybe if I pay the monthly fee it will work everytime:)

    Then who knows I might be able to store all that paid for data in a temporary data file and further fill my hard disk with mind boggling data that I have paid for ;)

    I want this data this is the opportunity I have been waiting for, the chance to pay for such valuable highly topical data

    We, all of us are so lucky that the Internet provides these great sources of wisdom, information & knowledge :D
     
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  18. Gnet

    Gnet Peon

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    #78
    Look, no ones forcing you, no ones even asking you to use it.

    You are doing that on your own free will and dont like how things are going for you.
    No one can change that if you dont have the will to pay.
     
    Gnet, Jun 12, 2007 IP
  19. Freewebspace

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    #79


    GOOD REPLY

    Gnet! you would even sink with PS


    Do not support them as it is not your tool!

    Just see here how PD is different and better than PS

    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=363101
     
    Freewebspace, Jun 13, 2007 IP
  20. Overseas

    Overseas Well-Known Member

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    #80
    In my tiny humble opinon, i love the tool and buy links based on information that PS delivers, $40 hey come on! it's well, well worth it, i've been a member for 6 months now, and the advantages are amazing, not just for PS ... (again in my tiny humble opinon).

    If your serious about links, seo etc get into :: SEOMOZ
     
    Overseas, Jun 13, 2007 IP