Teams you are supposed to care about

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    There have always been teams that thought that you should care about them or sports media has come up with teams you are supposed to care about. Right now ESPN and others think you really care about the Yankees and to a lesser degree the Red Sox, each has fair to poor results for the money they spend. The Atlanta Braves and Dallas Cowboys deemed themselves "America's team" a while back.

    I really don't care about the Yankees and the Red Sox and was turned off immediately by the America's teams. I care about the teams that I grew up with or the ones that are doing a great job with little resources like the Oakland A's.

    Do you care about the teams you are supposed care about?
     
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  2. JeffLump

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    I have been following sports my entire life since the late 1960's. I used to be passionate about sports - and I lived and died with my favorite teams according to how they fared each season. I still follow the same teams that I've been attached to for 40 years: Baseball - Atlanta Braves, Football - Dallas Cowboys, Basketball - LA Lakers, College hoops, (since I am an alumnus) - UConn Huskies.
    Because of the greed of players in their quest to fatten their bank accounts, because of player strikes and lockouts that have occured in sports, while I still follow sports closely, I no longer have the passion to live and die with my teams - except for UConn basketball (Men and Women's teams). Pro athletes, to me are about greed and most, (not all) have a "me", "myself", and "I" attitude. Athletes are less committed to their fanbase. Ticket prices to attend games are outrageous, and the owners don't care about the fans either. The owners sold themselves to television in an effort to get as much $$$ as possible. What happened to the World Series having games during the day? Why does the World Series, NBA finals, and NCAA title games start after 9 pm. on the East Coast? The owners could care less that young fans can't possibly stay up late to watch these championship games, but they are too blinded by the fact that television money is being deposited into their banks. What do they, (the owners) care that a lot of World Series games end at around midnight, on the East Coast? Because of that, I no longer have the invested interest in rooting for my teams with the same level of commitment and fervor that I did even 15 years ago. For me, now if my Cowboys or the Lakers don't win a championship, or go deep into the playoffs, my attitude is "big deal"! I suppose you can just color me "cynical"!
    Jeff
     
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  3. theTurk

    theTurk Active Member

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    I care about a couple of soccer teams:
    Barcelona and Fenerbahce
     
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  4. tbarr60

    tbarr60 Notable Member

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    Braves, Cowboys, and Lakers....yikes...all teams you are supposed to care about. I loved the Showtime Lakers but not this bunch. I live where you can find year round Laker radio and they think the whole NBA revolves around them and see the Lakers as a franchise that is different than Boston, New York and Phillie but they're not. I am supposed to care about the Lakers but with Kobe and Phil, I can easily opt out.

    Regarding start time, I grew up in the eastern time zone so I negotiated with my parents offering to take a nap if I could stay up to watch Monday Night Football. I thought it was ridiculous that the Stanley Cup Final was starting in Anaheim at 5:00pm, leave work at 2:00 or 3:00 to be able to go home get the family and get to the arena before the 5:00pm traffic jam?? I stay up to midnight or later and still get up well before 6:00am. Starting a game at 7:00 on the east coast means it starts at 4:00 for L.A., San Diego, San Francisco, Oakland, Sacramento, Portland, and Seattle.
     
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  5. timsdd

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    is it me or is ESPN going down hill over time? Who the hell cars about the Yankees! I mean other than Yankee fans?

    I hope they burn :D

    Why should we feel sorry for the spoiled losers??
     
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    tbarr60 Notable Member

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    They kinda don't give even coverage. Yankees, Yankees, Yankees, Red Sox, Yankees is there typical coverage when not running down the scores. How much coverage do they give the Mets, Padres, Brewers, and Indians - all division leaders???
     
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    ascend Banned

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    i only care for one team... and that team is The San Antonio Spurs....
     
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  8. Rohit patel

    Rohit patel Prominent Member

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    Well I only care for Football team and that club was Manchester United. I love them since 1994 when I was 9 year old.
     
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    timsdd Peon

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    ESPN....what's a Brewer? Is that a typo??

    they "think" we want to hear about NYY especially when it pertain to BoSox.

    maybe they are unaware of other 'races' already in progress :rolleyes:

    maybe they should have a separate ESPN just to cover those two, another one for TO, what else? ;)
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    and back to your OQ, I was conditioned to like the Braves too ever since we got TBS...damn you Ted Turner!

    I guess I could have like the Sox, growing up in NE but let's face it, aside from the Celtic, all the other teams sucked the butt (Bruins aside maybe?)
     
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  10. tbarr60

    tbarr60 Notable Member

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    Maybe they should be like Fox and have ESPN NorthEast or maybe ESPN Yankee. I did like all those reports about the Yankees when their was only 150 games left and they were like 10 games back and there was nothing else going on except the Stanley Cup finals, the NBA playoffs, the NFL Draft, the NBA draft lottery, and some horse races.

    Sorry to hear about you and the Braves, my gag reflex was developed well enough before Ted started pushing America's team.
     
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    timsdd Peon

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    ESPN Quatro - aka The YANK

    My Dad and friends weren't really into watching sports so I was kind of 'clueless' as far as who I liked. Plus, it wasn't like today where you can virtually follow any team anywhere if you have the right HW/SW.

    For football, guess who was on more than The Pats than any other team. Of course as an adult it was an easy switch once I moved to Texas (no, not the Oilers).

    I'm in sad shape buddy :D
     
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  12. tbarr60

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    timsdd,
    Weren't you sporting a Cardinals logo last fall? That was a fairly good vital sign.

    Signed,
    Tigers fan
     
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    timsdd Peon

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    :eek: no! that was MIA (Jeremy) I think! 99.4% positive


    but I'm up for recommendations. If the cards a good place to start, I'm willing to consider ;)
     
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    Right now? Have you watched ESPN or any sports segment on baseball ever? :) They darn near choke you to death with the Yanks and Sox.

    The Yanks and Red Sox are always talked about, because they are two staples in the sport. Their storied rivalry is pretty much the biggest thing the MLB has going and thus it's talked about always.

    As to the result, I guess I'd ask just how you're determining this. If we're talking about history, I'm guessing that the Yankees, who have the most championships, have had a little better than "fair" results.

    Also, the MLB is a secondary sport. They've got to key in on a couple main staples all the time.

    It's not like the NFL, which is the #1 sports league in the USA. With the NFL and even college football to an extent, they can open it up and talk about lots of teams.

    And by the way, ESPN, FOX or any other sports media outlet isn't telling YOU what you need to care about. They are simply talking about the topics that they feel will get the best ratings.

    For instance, talking about the Brewers for too long will hurt. How many Brewer fans watch the show? However, talking about the Yankees yields many more potential viewers. First, you have the fans and second, you have the people who hate the Evil Empire.

    It's all a numbers game.
     
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    it's it's just like the regular news...biased!!! :mad::mad:
     
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    Sorry to disappoint you. In Journalism classes (in college), you're taught all about what "news" is, what should lead and so forth.

    If you don't get the numbers (print, online, TV, whatever), you don't get the ad revenue. If you don't get that, you die. :D

    In print, the news is written AFTER the ads are in place. It's called the news hole and TV is the same way. It takes money to run all of this stuff. :D

    The Yankees and Red Sox have lots of fans and haters and they get the numbers on a national scale. Teams like the Brewers don't. :)
     
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    That sounds ridiculously capitalistic, news exists to fill in the slots between Adsense....ooops...ads? Why were all major new channels so left leaning if they were taught such capitalistic ideas?

    Do left wing views help better than right wing ads in selling what the ads are selling??
     
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    I am so disappointed :rolleyes:
     
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    marketjunction Well-Known Member

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    I don't know why people think the "news" is left leaning.

    A survey of many journalists was done a couple years back and they found that the average was right down the middle--perhaps slightly left depending on how you define left and right.

    Who knows. But, if you or I owned the network, we'd do the same thing for the most part. You have to pay the bills or you have no more network, newspaper, whatever.
     
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    When you include the Hooterville Heralds editor in I guess that would offset a writer or two at the L.A. Times or NY Times.. Here in SoCal the left leaning big paper is cutting back due to circulation problems and the paper that says it has a libertarian bias is doing well so things may be working out.

    I still don't care about the Yankees, Red Sox, Cowboys, Lakers, or Braves and hope they win their equal share of championships (one every 30 years).
     
    tbarr60, Jun 14, 2007 IP