Google ups the ante... again...

Discussion in 'Google' started by minstrel, Jun 6, 2007.

  1. maleenhancement

    maleenhancement Peon

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    #61
    now can we? F--- Google. It's time to start pushing other search engines and stop being Google's Bitches.
     
    maleenhancement, Jun 7, 2007 IP
  2. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #62
    Yeah. Uh-huh.

    This from someone making a living this way:

    :rolleyes:
     
    minstrel, Jun 8, 2007 IP
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    clbnc Peon

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    #63
    LOL, maybe it is this person that keeps spamming my blog with "penis enlargement pill" comments. ;)
     
    clbnc, Jun 8, 2007 IP
  4. maleenhancement

    maleenhancement Peon

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    #64
    Hey Menstrual,

    Great response. I see you have a ton of friends here. Let me guess, you also believe the "Magic Bullet Theory" too, I'll bet-eh? Physcology? You got to be kidding me? I can see it has done WONDERS for you! You are a joke!
     
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  5. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #65
    Hint: Invest in a spell-checker.
     
    minstrel, Jun 8, 2007 IP
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    mvandemar Notable Member

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    #66
    Let me guess... Tom Cruise???

    -Michael
     
    mvandemar, Jun 8, 2007 IP
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    camp185 Well-Known Member

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    #67
    Uh...speaking as a completely stoned surfer dude...you are a tard.
     
    camp185, Jun 8, 2007 IP
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    helleborine Well-Known Member

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    #68
    I personally never paid a cent for links.

    This may be counterintuitive but I think even paid links have value.

    For instance, some crappy site would not be worth spending money buying links. But if you have hired people and written up a terrific website, you want quick out of the sandbox, you need traffic, visibility, etc. You might buy links.

    Strange as it may be, the web might be poorer if paid links were discounted by search engines.
     
    helleborine, Jun 9, 2007 IP
  9. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #69
    For what we have learnt so far is that google is breaking its own rules of neglecting the content to a great deal.

    I think if they want to keep up the links and backlinks count for their algo calculation, they need to think twice and they should not even try to make a double standard out of this, because it will only backfire on them.
     
    Arnie, Jun 10, 2007 IP
  10. DavidK1

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    #70
    I don't believe it will work. Google is attempting to curb human nature on a global scale. It is human nature to want to achieve the best result possible. It's why the casino industry makes so much money. It would be selective enforcement at best, and that's lame.

    I don't doubt peoples' Phds or Google's sincerity at fighting this. Sure they can do it, but it is hypocrisy! They started out as link sellers! I wouldn't call Matt Cutts a puppet, but I don't believe everything he writes. Google is in the business of "self optimization", and everyone should be cognizant of that .
     
    DavidK1, Jun 17, 2007 IP
  11. AngelaE8654

    AngelaE8654 Active Member

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    #71
    Yeah, I will have to agree. From a newbie's point of view there is way too much effort going into what Google is going to do next. We can't know that for sure and if we spend all our time and effort analyzing what "might" happen and not enough time just marketing our products to real, living, people our time is wasted. In my opinion. :)
     
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    submitmaster Well-Known Member

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    #72
    so if anyone has read or reads Matt Cutts blog, i want to know what you guys think when he is pretty much telling all the link sellers and directory owners to use no-follow tag on the outgoing links, i mean would you still buy the link if they slap on the tag, or as a link seller, would you do this to your customers?
    I personally wouldn't as i fell like google sometimes is asking for the publics help to cut down on link buying so only companies like wikipedia can remain on top of SE's
    whats your say on this, thanks all
     
    submitmaster, Jun 21, 2007 IP
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    stock_post Prominent Member

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    #73
    why can't they just discount the lins all together.

    Why do they force me to do somehting, when they can implement on their site.

    It is Big Brother (Mafia) thinking.
     
    stock_post, Jun 21, 2007 IP
  14. yogesh sarkar

    yogesh sarkar Well-Known Member

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    #74
    What he is doing is looking for the perspective of a Google employee and that is what he should be doing, you and I need to think from the perspective of a webmaster to do what is necessary and right for our business.

    The day people start adding nofollow attribute to paid links, I don’t think any one would purchase their links.
     
    yogesh sarkar, Jun 21, 2007 IP
  15. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #75
    Perhaps not. But if your interest is in advertising rather than PageRank and the seller is not hiding the fact that the links are nofollow, why would you object?

    I'm not defending nofollow, for the record. I think it's a simpleminded and dumb idea that doesn't work.

    1. It doesn't prevent comment spam, which was the original point.

    2. There are other ways to discount PR boost if that's what Google wants to do.

    3. There are suggestions that even Googlebot follows "nofollow" links so really... why should anyone bother?
     
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  16. RobertD

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    #76
    yup, except for Google, so basically we all resort to using Adwords and Adsense.
     
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    #77

    I believe that is the absolute truth. I have set up a subdomain that had nothing but rel=nofollow links to it, and it was visited by Googlebot quite often.

    I think Googlebot views rel=nofollow as a message from the webmaster that says "I'm not sure about the quality of this site, therefore you should 'decide' for yourself".
     
    DavidK1, Jun 26, 2007 IP
  18. GuyFromChicago

    GuyFromChicago Permanent Peon

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    #78
    Google's openly admitted that they have ways of finding/indexing sites besides links.
     
    GuyFromChicago, Jun 26, 2007 IP
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    #79

    Sure they have, but nothing is faster than a link from an "established" site that it visits daily. Having Googlebot's visit come just a few minutes after the established site visit made it pretty clear for me.


    I also have rel=nofollow links counted as backlinks on what they make availble publicly, and even more on the webmasters tool.
     
    DavidK1, Jun 26, 2007 IP
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    #80
    A link and a link that passes some value are two different things:)

    And in terms of Google following nofollow links...everyone will arrive at their own conclusions but my efforts have lead me to belive they do not follow nofollow links.
     
    GuyFromChicago, Jun 26, 2007 IP