Just because the war profiteers would have to get real jobs doesn't mean the country would go to hell. You're getting there. I detect a bit of sarcasm, but there is always hope.
War profiteers like alex jones, john conners and other tin foilers who sponge up money from young angry white males with low IQs by pimping fear into them and creating *for profit* conspiracies? And to think, Ron Paul also dabbles in these conspiracies. That's "aid and comfort" to our enemies. The Constitution, which his sheep usually try to convince others he is about, talks about "aid and comfort."
These donations prove that people who spam online polls in Paul favor exist, every one of them. I'm still not sure if I am going to send mine, all this enthusiasm around Paul is unfounded. The best case scenario is that he'll end like Kennedys or Paul Wellstone
Demosfen predicts the assassination of Ron Paul. He's not the first though. So I think Briant already picked his assassination. We just need a death pool now to see who can predict the date and the cause of his death. I'm thinkin' it'll be one of those missing 9/11 planes will ram into his limo, but it'll look just like a missile. And it'll happen on a tuesday. What say you? Your premise is flawed anyways. It actually proves that the people who spam the polls don't exist. In a recent grass roots GOP poll, Ron Paul got 11,000 votes (first place). In the same poll, over 90% of people who voted for Ron Paul said no other candidate was acceptable. So, if that many people are -that- committed to Paul, why aren't they throwing more money at him? Ron Paul. The best hope. The last hope. For humanity. Save the Republic. Take the Red Pill. Ron Paul.
No, that might awake some sheeple. More like a car crash, or unassisted suicide by chopping head off. Something that will look believable to sheeple
Atari, how can u go against the government version. We all know that bullets can turn right, then left then right in mid air. We also know that pigs can fly. Sheesh, i thought everyone knew that lol
Show me in the official government version where anyone claims the bullet moved "left then right in mid air". The people pushing that are using a faulty diagram of the car Kennedy was shot in. Oliver Stone mentions the same in his JFK movie as well. The bullet made a perfect straight line on the predicted trajectory. But I know. Facts don't matter. Ron Paul. The last hope. The best hope. For humanity. Save the Republic. Take the Red Pill. Ron Paul.
Lorien, like i said before, its easier to prove the truth. Another words you have a huge mountain to climb lol. This is coming from a physics message board. God bless you lorien, the more you talk, the more easier u make it for me to prove the truth and the more you inspire me to prove the truth. Jesus did bring you into this thread for a reason)) http://itwasjohnson.impiousdigest.com/nbc.htm The bullet had to take this route in order to cause the injuries which he received. Now the important thing to keep in mind is that the Warren Commission itself concedes that if this same bullet was not the one which also went through President Kennedy, then there had to be someone else firing. And the reason for that, just to put it very simply, is that the Zapruder film has shown that all the firing occurred in six seconds, and yet there were a total of eight wounds. Therefore this one bullet has to cause seven wounds, because one missed and one was the fatal shot hitting the President. So by the Warren Commission’s own admission, prior to hitting the Governor, this bullet had to go through President Kennedy who is sitting back here. Now you’ll notice that the Warren Commission did not attempt to include President Kennedy in the diagram— they could not because of the total impossibility of this bullet having gone through the President also would be too obvious. In other words, by the evidence of the Warren Commission itself, it is obvious that there was other shooting going on in Dealey Plaza. Consequently, the Warren Commission has officially concluded that before this bullet came down from the sky as it had to, to hit Governor Connally in all those different places, it entered President Kennedy’s body from the rear and came out of his neck. I might add that the Warren Commission did not try to include the President’s picture because that would have shown that the course of the magic bullet would have had to have gone up in the air and come down again in order to end up hitting the Governor. It is by selecting these little portions of each incident and by excluding other portions that the fairy tale is presented to you. However, if they had to show in one diagram the bullet entering the President and then continuing through Governor Connally, you would be able to see the total impossibility of this bullet causing seven wounds. [This section was in Garrison’s script, but he skipped over it and it was not broadcast. At the time, Garrison handed out copies of his statement to the press. This portion was included in Garrison’s handout, but he did not state the words in the next two paragraphs over the air, although he intended to.] "Personally, I don’t want to be calm about the assassination of John F. Kennedy. I don’t want to be calm about a President of my country being shot down in the streets. And I don’t want to be calm about the fact that for reasons of public policy or national security or any other phony reason, the true facts have been withheld from the people of this country. " And now, let’s take a look at the magic bullet itself: [Exhibit 399]. This is the magic bullet which is supposed to have caused these wounds, without having its shape altered in any way or without even getting dirty. This bullet, which was found at Parkland Hospital, lying on the floor, went through President Kennedy’s back and out of his neck, through Governor Connally’s back and out of his chest, into the governor’s wrist and out of his wrist and into the governor’s leg. [Garrison had a display with a photo of the “magic bullet.â€] Don’t ask me to explain to you how it was possible for this to have occurred. They can’t really explain it either. But you have to believe it because if this untarnished bullet did not accomplish all this by itself, then it means that someone else had to be shooting at the President and, of course, this would conflict with the official version of the assassination. [End of scripted, but unspoken portion of Garrison’s presentation] Now, this is just one of many examples which show that the Warren Commission’s conclusion is completely impossible. Bullet 399 is another example, the fact that the cartridges in the Tippit case do not match at all the bullets in Tippit’s body—one after the other—if I had the total hour to reply which NBC used to try and discredit my office I would be able to go into more matters. But let’s sum it up by saying that it is completely impossible to uphold the single assassin theory, if you look at it seriously. Anyone who has done their homework knows that the single assassin theory is totally impossible. In the final analysis what has been done by the Warren Commission in its investigation, is to take this series of implausibilities and to attempt to prove to you that each one of them is at least mathematically possible. Each one of them is mathematically possible, but not probable. However, it is not mathematically possible for all of these series of implausibilities to have occurred, and this is what they ask you to believe. It’s very much like telling you that it is mathematically possible, for example, for an elephant to hang from a cliff with his tail tied to a daisy. Of course, this is implausible. "The people of this country don’t have to be protected from the truth. This country was not built on the idea that a handful of nobles, whether located in our Federal agencies in Washington D.C., or in the news agencies in New York should decide what was good for the people to know, and what they should not know. This is a totalitarian concept which presumes that the leaders of our Federal government and the men in control of the powerful press media constitute a special elite which by virtue of their nobility and their brilliance, empower them to think for the people." But what do they do? They produce an expert who says, “Yes I have made a study of the situation, and this is not a full-grown elephant, and this is a particularly tough kind of daisy. And, therefore, it was mathematically possible.†Now the official truth, as a result of such expert testimony—as a result of the creation of a series of mathematical possibilities is now no longer what actually happened in Dallas, but what has been officially approved. Well, I say that the matter is not closed—not in this country I say that the day has not yet arrived when the only reality is power and the ideals on which our country was built are merely words printed on paper. I believe that those news agencies which have sought to imply that I would use improper methods to gain some sort of fictional political advantage have simply revealed their own cynicism. I believe that in this conflict between truth and power—and this is exactly what it is all about—that power cannot possibly smash truth out of existence. The people in this country will not let that happen. If we still live in the same country in which we were born, and I don’t think it’s changed that much; if this is still the country in which, in the words of our Pledge of Allegiance, there exists, “liberty and justice for all,†then this attempt to conceal the full truth from you, in the end, has to be a failure. In this case I have learned more about the human race than I really wanted to know. And I’ve learned more about some of our government agencies than I really wanted to know. And I’ve learned more about some of our press agencies than I cared to know. But I am still naive enough to believe that in America the people make the decisions, not a handful of men in the Washington and New York areas. And I believe that the people of America want to know the entire truth about how their President was shot down in the streets of Dallas. http://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/selec...mmittee-report/ Quote: "I. Findings of the Select Committee on Assassination in the assassination of President John F. Kennedy I.A. Lee Harvey Oswald fired three shots at President John F. Kennedy. The second and third shots he fired struck the President. The third shot he fired killed the President I.B. Scientific acoustical evidence establishes a high probability that two gunmen fired at President John F. Kennedy. Other scientific evidence does not preclude the possibility of two gunmen firing at the President. Scientific evidence negates some specific conspiracy allegations I.C. The committee believes, on the basis of the evidence available to it, that President John F. Kennedy was probably assassinated as a result of a conspiracy. The committee was unable to identify the other gunmen or the extent of the conspiracy I.D. Agencies and departments of the U.S. Government performed with varying degrees of competency in the fulfillment of their duties. President John F. Kennedy did not receive adequate protection. A thorough and reliable investigation into the responsibility of Lee Harvey Oswald for the assassination was conducted. The investigation into the possibility of conspiracy in the assassination was inadequate. the conclusions of the investigations were arrived at in good faith, but presented in a fashion that was too definitive" http://forum.physorg.com/index.php?showtopic=6879 Of course, no one in the federal government actually sought to officially reopen the murder case and investigate what was determined as a probable conspiracy. Oswald was blamed as a Marxist aka Communist. The media played along in lockstep. This helped to garner support for an anti-communist public philosophy to fight communist expansion in southeast asia. The evidence and records were sealed. As a result of the murder of JFK, Viet Nam escalated into a full-scale war. Sound familiar? Masked Marauder Posted on Jun 1 2006, 01:06 PM Quote Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 415 Joined: 8-May 06 Positive Feedback: 55.56% Feedback Score: 3 I will add to that. as a former Marine, and a top notch shooter, I could NOT have taken those 3 shots in that short a period of time from that distance and had that kind of accuracy. I would be hard pressed to do that with a semi automatic. and I shot a 239 out of 250 at ranges up to 500 meters. Now someone tell me how a flunky managed to pop off that many shots that fast with a bolt action rifle, AND to top it off, one of the slugs did not compress/flatten out on impact. (The magic bullet) you can hit a piece of paper with a round and it will balloon... I do NOT believe Oswald was alone. As for who? good luck. : Daein, Please explain how the fatal headshot could have come from the Texas book depository? Did Oswald run down all six floors and out of the depository ahead of the limo after the first two shots and then somehow manage to get into position either on the grassy knoll or at the fence at the corner of the rail yard and place the final shot into JFK's forehead before running BACK into the book depository to be seen by witnesses only so that he can leave several minutes later? Send PM · Send email · Masked Marauder Posted on Jun 1 2006, 07:50 PM Quote Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 415 Joined: 8-May 06 Positive Feedback: 55.56% Feedback Score: 3 QUOTE (Daein @ Jun 1 2006, 01:02 PM) This is ridicules. It was recently proved most probable that Kennedy was killed with a single bullet. Firstly: the acoustic evidence assumed that the recording was happening in one position. It was recently discovered that the sound wasn't being recorded where people thought it was. Two: the car wasn't shaped like people assume it was when watching the video. Connelly was lower and towards the center of the car. It turns out that the bullet trajectory from Oswald's position lines up perfectly with Kennedy and Connelly. Three: They recreated the scene on a shooting range with a marksmen using the same gun at the same distance and position with two ballistics gels with bones it them and the works. The marksman managed to hit them just like Oswald did and the bullet came out completely intact after being fired. There is ZERO chance that a bullet passed through that much flesh and bone and did NOT fail to mushroom. That is simply not possible. I have fired many rounds over the years into items as simple as a can full of water, and the 22 round coming out had SOME deformity. Even larger caliber rounds are purposely designed to deform.... The round they showed was perfect. There is absolutely ZERO possiblity of that happening in the real world... Why they chose to show that kind of a round is beyond me, but I have no belief that that particular round went through those targets and came out unblemished. MMC Posted on Jun 1 2006, 10:15 PM Quote Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 1829 Joined: 19-November 05 Positive Feedback: 36.36% Feedback Score: -9 QUOTE The committee believes, on the basis of the evidence available to it, that President John F. Kennedy was probably assassinated as a result of a conspiracy. The committee was unable to identify the other gunmen or the extent of the conspiracy That is fascinating...the official line would appear to be that other gunmen were present but not enough is known about their involvement. So, instead of opening a can of worms, they condensed the other gunmen's shots into the 'magic bullet' theory and tried to draw a line under the event. In the 1960's, without widespread access to alternative news sources the flow of information could be controlled and, with time, this would become the history taught to generations to come. A typical whitewash...a conspiracy swept under the carpet by those who were caught sleeping at the wheel... Its interesting to note, what the majority of people have been led to believe over the last 40 years has completely fallen apart in less than 24 hours in this thread. That's solely due to the loss of control to the flow of information. That must be a disturbing prospect for those in certain government circles. Send PM · Send email ·
So, let me see, you are copying and pasting other peoples' thoughts and passing them off as fact? This quote is as self serving as it is funny. He says "he" could not do it. Therefore, I guess, its impossible. I've seen demonstrations that show how probable it is to do, within a shorter period of time. Also, Oswald was not accuratet as people say. He fired 3 shots, right? He missed with the first shot, right? So the accuracy argument is silly isn't it. He hit once or twice; all that was needed. No; this is a conspiracy site. It is not a physics message board. Please be honest here. I've already told you that this is untrue. It is based off a false diagram of the vehicle they were travelling in. The back seat (kennedy's seat) was not behind the governor directly, it was set in a little bit, making the line perfect with how the events took place. All you have to do is look at the same model car to see it. In fact, this single picture debunks the whole magic bullet theory. Look at the offset of the seats Kennedy was sitting in See the bullet didn't fly, right, up and down in midair. This picture was easy to find. I really suggest you read something other than conspiracy sites if you think you have any ground to stand on here: http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm The JFK conspiracy is ridiculuous.
you mean you believe what others tell you rather than logically believing the facts because you cannot think for yourself.
Lorien on top of that here is one thing u cant run away from. The presidents head flew black and to the left. No way on earth this could have happened if the shot was fired from the depository. Its nice of you to make it up you go bu tim sorry this is what the government presented to us, and if u read the beginning of the warren comission their job was to prove that oswald did the shooting and no one else, and their excuse was for fear of public unreast. What a jokeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Lorien you cant tell squat from that pic. back and to the left, back and to the left , back and to the left. Why are u willing to believe the warren comission(the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the american people) as opposed to teh house select comitte on assasinations. Also why is all the evidence being withheald from us until the year 2029. Im gonna research the car now. This debate is almost over, you have been proven wrong on everything else, now lets prove you wrong on the car Book depository was in back of the president at the time of the fatal headshot. I got a deal here, why dont you and me sign up for that physics forum and lets present our opinions and facts. You seem to be willing to go far to prove this fairy tale of your. LETS GO ALL THE WAY)))))))))) I have a feeling that you will say NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Would everyone else like to see us sign up for that physics board? Like i also said as i proved this iraq war was based on a lie its much better to let this thread die down because as it keeps going on there will be that many more convertees
Have you ever watched mythbusters? They shoot things all the time, and when something is shot, it actually explodes to the back....its the laws of physics. When a pressure is exerted on something, that something exerts an equal and opposite pressure. Since the bullet can penetrate, Kennedy's head would have still gone back. simple physics overcome your dumbness of thought 11 times out of 10.
As I said. Stop reading stupid conspiracy sites http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/dealey.htm On this page are essays about "back and to the left" that you just mindlessly chanted at me. Are you willing to read them? Probably not. Everything you are bringing up is dealt with on this site. Please compare and contrast. If you care to actually think about this issue instead of chanting things at me.
I will deal with the site which i know is a massively pro government stance. I will read through all of it just to close this case once and for all. Now u answer my question. Why did the house select comittee on assasinations find that jfk was probably killed as a result of a conspiracy. Also lorien if you can answer this for yourself without ur stooges breastfeeding you any help. Why did the comittee llock up crucial evidence until the year 2029. Now please answer without some stupid joke please. i want your opinion on why they did this and dont bother telling me they did it because it wasnt important because if it wasnt important they would have shared it with the world.