Something most American citizens don't understand about Russia

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  1. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #21

    Wins what?
     
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    N_F_S Active Member

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    #22
    Well, these little countries like Estonia, Latvia would be "occupied" either by USSR or Hitler, so I don't know why they are crying about occupation, this is a normal thing called WAR, it happens during the WAR, the whole world was "occupied" by someone. It's funny to see how Estonia admires of nazist, SS, and the likes and with 1/3 russian population, they try to discriminate them in all ways they can. This is called democratic EU country?

    You forgot Poland, they hate us too, as well as we hate them, they can't do much against us, so they made a big deal out of their f. beef from Argentina that Russia stopped buying it, why they bring this into EU-Russia relations on poltical level? Cos they are midgets, eat that unhealthy beef yourself.

    I wouldn't say that America "are about the best friends" of Russia, there are other countries that are closer, one of them is Germany.
     
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  3. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #23
    No, they'd be free... I'm pretty sure that is all they every wanted. I'm sure there is no love lost on either side.

    This was by far one of the more rotten posts I've seen lately.
     
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  4. biggilo

    biggilo Peon

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    #24
    Russia has alot of nukes, thats all, their miltary is in tatters and would not really be capable of fighting a conventional war against USA, UK, France, China or possibly even India. Also, remember that Russia didn't design their first nuke themselves, the KGB stole the designs from the British, who in turn had stolen it from Los Alamos (refer to recently declassified MOD documents for proof). The Russian airforce is antiquated with their latest fighters having nil stealth capabilities, also the Russian fleet is mostly unusable and in poor condition. Logistically wise they are no where near the level that the USA is at and would struggle to supply an army on the opposite side of the world. They may be able to nuke the planet to oblivion but that doesn't mean they are a great military power.
     
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  5. turhapuro

    turhapuro Peon

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    #25
    Well thats the point, if they can nuke you so much, you cant win against
    them.
     
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    primeryder Well-Known Member

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    #26
    No one can win such a nucleur confrontation, it would be insane for either side to even consider it. It is best that Russia and the US be friends, or at least partners. I see no reason not to be, Russia does not need Americas resources, they are super rich in Petrolium,, Gold Platinum, Diamonds, Silver, Nickel, Gold, Timber, Coal and all sorts of other resources.
     
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    #27
    Russia is making rapid strides in all spheres. Slowly but surely its going to upstage the US at some places and this could trigger a confrontation.

    The cold war is still alive. Only its a bit more veiled!
     
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  8. Wyla

    Wyla Well-Known Member

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    #28
    Its not in their interest to do so as Europe is a big source of their income from petroleum sale.

    You have to take into account the time period of the imperialism. Sure their were a few screwballs, such as Ivan the Terrible, but for the most part, Russia wants land, it takes it. If their is rebellion, it suppressed it with force.

    On the other hand, the Americans used deception to gain economic control of other countries (see Cuba and Phillipines). They tell them "We fight for you!" and then when they win, replace the previous imperial power.

    If by mongol you mean mongolian.... only in the mid-southern section.

    What an ignorant comment. How about traveling the world to see all of its wonders? Rome, Paris, Moscow, Berlin, Giza, etc.

    First to launch = end of world. Too many alliances. No one would dare launch a nuke.
     
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    turhapuro Peon

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    #29
    Except a lunatic... good post =)
     
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    #30
    both russia and the U.S have nuclear sub that are floating under the ice caps and they both have the capacity to destroy the world. So if everyone is worrying about Russia launchin Nucs, then you should worry about the ones on there subs that surface once every 4 years or so. There are no co-ordinated until they surface so good luck finding them,
    conclusion: No one will win... if any of the world powers decide to attack everybody is scrwed and no anti-missle station is going to help anyone.
     
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    The Webmaster IdeasOfOne

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    #31
    Mistaking....

    Effects of a massive nuke war is not going to obey international borders...
    if it happens, the world is doomed, totaly...
     
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    samantha pia Prominent Member

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    #32
    looks like a flying dustbin to me. and yanks are killing you off already, you now have macdonalds and KFC enjoy the fat life and early death
     
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    #33

    they would be free, huh? Hitler would make them free ?

    lol, you probably don't know that India buys arms from us, and of course not the latest once. So, what are you talking about? Everyone's amazed of C300 systems that are on "sale", but there's a C400 system already there, which is not on "sale" for obvious reasons.
     
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    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #34
    Ease up on the Vodka there comrade, that's not what I said, and you know it.
     
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    temujin Peon

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    #35
    yes , i read an article online written by a russian that many russians blame alcoholism on their mongolian blood ancestry (even though I assume that would be very little :rolleyes: ). lol , i don't know if its true or not. I do know that during the mongol conquest , mongolian dna has spreaded thru east europe like turkish empires but i didn't know it went to russia.
     
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    N_F_S Active Member

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    #36
    You dont know much about concepts of war, then.

    1) Two grand powers are fighting with millions killed, and here comes Estonia that "would not be in this war" ?? I would really want to hear your plan of them becoming free under Stalin or Hitler.

    2) Stalin occupied everyone (except himself), including russians and many other nationalities, as well as my dad's family were departed to Kazazhstan and half of his family died in train. Read up the history.


    P.S: I am not russian, so calm down with Vodka comments ;)
     
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  17. Mia

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    #37
    I was not aware "war" was a "concept".

    War according to Wiki = "War is a prolonged state of violent, large-scale conflict involving two or more groups of people."

    Concept according ot Wiki = "A concept is an abstract idea or a mental symbol, typically associated with a corresponding representation in and language or symbology, that denotes all of the objects in a given category or class of entities, interactions, phenomena, or relationships between them."

    Are you saying that only Russians drink vodka? Also, I find it odd that you would capitalize the "V" in vodka, but not the "R" in Russia. Cheap vodka will have that affect on grammar.. :eek:
     
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    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #38
    Since you found it necessary to edit your post after I responded to you, i will address your back pedal attempts.

    I think you mis-read what I said. As I indicated previously, please do so more carefully next time.

    Did they know Borat? I would love to have his autograph!


    You did it again. It's Russian and vodka. The important parts are in "bold" so you don't get confused.
     
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    #39
    Mia, learn the map of south Russia to see there are millions of not russians there.

    BTW, stop double posting, I got an infrigement for that ;)

    I think you missed the whole history. You don't know much about ww2 and the war as itself.

    easy, I'm lazy as well, so I copied the word Vodka from your previous post, and I can write russian with small letters, as I am not a Russian, where are your points? Let's see how you talk/write in russian ,shall we? :)

    that made you laugh? What a poor person you are. BTW borat - is a jewish idiot, making millions on sheeple like you. Would be better if you learnt actually something from the books about Kazahstan rather than posting something about Borat on a political forum. That tells how you really educated on other countries.
     
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    Wyla Well-Known Member

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    #40
    vce nastoiashie ruskie govoriat po ruskie horasho - no hi vce umeoot pisait :D

    Now about Kazakhstan...

    It was a nomadic country with nothing until it became part of the Soviet Union. The Russians built schools, factories, and basically advanced the country threefold. In return, Russia took lots of KZ's resources and sent exiles there.
     
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