Search Engine Trust - Your Views?

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by antum, May 29, 2007.

  1. TommyNY

    TommyNY Peon

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    #41
    First it's the # of posts people have here - and now you think our template isn't right? Good Graphics gives credibility?

    WOW

    take a look at the names of the people who use the service- they're some heavy hitters in IM (not just Ed Dale)

    and several SEO company owners - not to mention several software designers that I bet many of you buy from

    but put all that aside

    Proof is not hard to demonstrate - just say the word

    Funny how nobody is taking up that offer

    Talk is cheap - Lets stop guessing - nobody has to buy

    I am more than happy to show you...as often as you want

    Tommy
     
    TommyNY, Jun 6, 2007 IP
  2. ChasLaser

    ChasLaser Peon

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    #42
    Funny, only PEONs support this product.

    eof
     
    ChasLaser, Jun 7, 2007 IP
  3. kirby009

    kirby009 Peon

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    #43
    You got to get the right keyword then move on.
     
    kirby009, Jun 7, 2007 IP
  4. george75

    george75 Peon

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    #44
    I'm offended that you thought anybody on these forums would be taken in by the worst attempt to promote a shoddy item. Please go away! :mad:
     
    george75, Jun 7, 2007 IP
  5. TommyNY

    TommyNY Peon

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    #45
    Again I am shaking my head in disbelief...

    I haven't resorted to personal attacks

    I haven't been negative in anyway

    All because we wanted to defend our self - your offended?

    There are honest people in the world...we are just suppose to let you tear away at what we do because you have 59 posts

    59 post makes you the gospel on someones life

    What offends you, that we think enough of what we do everyday that we defend ourselves?

    I could care less if you think this is promotion

    Don't buy

    just stop with all the BS comments or back them up

    I am not spouting off and yelling anyone down

    again this is easy to resolve once and for all

    Proof is not hard to demonstrate - just say the word

    Funny how nobody is taking up that offer
     
    TommyNY, Jun 7, 2007 IP
  6. sweetfunny

    sweetfunny Banned

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    #46
    You want proof?

    * Check out the mothership: Clicky

    * I've got a domain the same age, it went PR6 and has about 200 times the backlinks.

    * Do a site:yourdomain.com and you have all sorts of junk indexed.

    * Your blogs are low PR, spammy and have stale old cache's and virtually no backlinks.

    * Your mothership ranks for basically nothing except a query for the domain name.

    * Your pages 1 click off the index are all Supplemential results.

    * Your sales pitch highlights; Wow we got #5 for 370,000 results like it's some kind of achievement.

    There's nothing to say besides, you should be out flogging subscriptions quickly before the next pagerank update.
     
    sweetfunny, Jun 7, 2007 IP
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  7. Sherlock

    Sherlock Well-Known Member

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    #47
    wow great stuff here......
     
    Sherlock, Jun 7, 2007 IP
  8. TommyNY

    TommyNY Peon

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    #48
    Sweetfunny,

    Lets end this once and for all

    The fact that you have a domain that that is PR6 and has 200 backlinks is worthless if it doesn't make money

    For the record the site you mention (as you call our mothership) is one of 75 sites we use

    Personally I could care less about getting a site to a high PR if it doesn't make money

    its about revenue - revenue drives the economic engine not PR or backlinks

    my worthless little PR 2 that has bad graphics and disappoints your SEO sensibilities does it's job (along with the other 74 sites we use to promote this service)

    which isn't to look good SEOwise

    It makes money...

    As for wasting time getting a salespage to rank

    Why?

    there are better ways to generate a lead using SEO

    Using a Salespage would rank DEAD last

    why?

    It's called reverse engineering - give me a URL thats being used in the marketing effort and I can tell you anything you want to know

    anything...then copy it for myself

    we don't blindly choose words we identified competitors best converting keywords then after reverse engineering their system applied them for ourselves

    If you want i can do the same for your salespages you list in your SIGnature

    I would NEVER use Just one page

    as for PR updates- been thru plenty - clients still here and still grabbing rankings and traffic

    I could give you retention stats but...

    As for the comment about low PR and spammy blogs - we provide from 3-7 on the PR - thats not good enough then we aren't what your looking for

    As for spammy we edit the sites 24/7 but it can definitely be done better

    We are working on something.

    But sweetfunny I have a question for you

    You mock the guy who got #5 out of 370,000...

    for him that was a big accomplishment

    but what i don't understand why you see that as bad

    the # of competition has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with a keyword converting and makes you good money

    Keywords that convert are keywords that convert and competition is not an indicator in any way

    How do you know if that keyword isn't making him $500 a day

    Go ahead and give me any market and i will prove it to you

    Keywords are broken up into categories

    people who are in the market (IM) - people who are ready to buy right now

    People who are entering the market (em) - getting close to buy but need a few precise answers

    and outside the market (OM) - potentials - fans but not a buyer today but could and should be real soon

    How do you know if that keyword isn't a hot in the market keyword

    How do you know what the market is and how much that guy is making

    I know that 99% of marketers look at PR and competition as indicators but that is worthless without one thing

    Profits

    Rank without profits is just BS to be bragged about in the forums

    Getting high PR on a site is worthless without profits - again more forum bragging

    SEM is simple...

    rank for the right keywords (IM and some EM) then convert

    You don't think our system gives rank then lets test it

    not you ignorant analysis

    I say ignorant because you have not used the system so anything you say is opinion based on nothing

    lets get you an opinion based on something real - create a fair test

    I have several in mind but I want it to be your idea

    and for those of you who think this is about marketing or promoting

    we will build a network for anyone in this forum to post to for free

    for as long as you wish

    so you never have to sign up for our service

    Again not everyone in the world is a liar

    I said this before and I will say this again

    I have no problem admitting if we have weaknesses - we do

    I have no problem telling anyone we aren't perfect - we're not perfect

    I have no problem apologizing if I offended someone

    but you don't get to claim lies as facts and pretend your judge and jury on what a man does for a living

    sweetfunny I had a different test in mind

    you say the system is BS then lets test it

    not sniping comments but an actual real deal test for every single person to see

    Besides rankings it's about making money

    As for subscriptions

    Nick and I make way more money from using SET than from monthly subscriptions

    As I said not everybody online is dishonest

    We do a great deal of Direct lead generation

    SET is after all a traffic generator

    Sweetfunny I have a solution to all of this take 10 minutes and talk to me on the phone and i will gladly give you the name and #'s of 20 or so clients.

    People you know

    people with multi -million dollar businesses that you can easily verify

    call them

    If that doesn't make you happy I will pay to fly you to chicago - and I will show you all the proof you need to know that we are honest people

    This thread is about us being honest men

    We think enough of DP and our reputations to post here and face pot shots

    I will do whatever is fair and reasonable to demonstrate we are honest men with an honorable service






























    For the record we generate 80% of our sales over the phone
     
    TommyNY, Jun 8, 2007 IP
  9. platina

    platina Peon

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    #49
    Well , Tommy can i test ride ur product? If you ask me to pay subscription fee , then i dont have. But i'll definately give honest review. I am quite new member here and many will again say "Peon is again defending SET" . But how can i prove? its just text dont show emotions.

    From my experience , even if product doesnt work for 99% of people , it doesnt mean it wont work for you. Remember , 95% of people here will fail. Only 5% will make big bucks online. In short , you have to test it urself . Its quite good these SET guys are accepting challenges , to prove they are honest people.
     
    platina, Jun 10, 2007 IP
  10. TommyNY

    TommyNY Peon

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    #50
    sorry about the delay- I am setting up a free version for anyone who wants it.

    this is being built and will be available shortly

    Tommy
     
    TommyNY, Jun 18, 2007 IP