Iran caught Red Handed delivering weapons to Taliban

lol, oh yeah forgot helping someone mass kill people is ok if you help the people getting killed mass kill other peoople

wait ...., what ?

 

We sold Britain weapons in WWII. Was that wrong? The answer is no.
And by using that argument you are admitting that Iran has no right to sell terror groups weapons to kill innocent people and coalition forces.

 

if there is a conflict someone will sell people guns, china sell guns to iran and they are supposed to be a friend and trade partner

If someone has money someone will sell them guns

We helped saddam kill tens of thousands of people from Iran, I don't think its reall surprising they would sell arms to our enemies.

 

Do you have any idea of how many total scumbags the US has helped arm?

Most of the landmines in the world are produced by US companies

Its a free market out there, if someone has money someone will sell them arms, regardless what they use them for.

 

You are missing the point. Iran is selling/giving the guns to the Taliban. It is not some random gun seller that is harder to locate. They (supposedly) know who it is - the Iranian government. Are you overlooking that, for some reason?

 

And do you realize how many scumbags are in these terrorist groups themselves??

Now list off some of these scumbags America has been equipping over the years

 

If we're serious about stamping out the ant hills of terrorism, it might be wise to trade, industrialize, educate and westernize these nations rather than bombing the crap out of backwaters and then expressing disdain that they are breeding grounds for terrorist groups.

Get those kids off the shooting range and onto MySpace, you'll see a rapid evolution in their social customs.

Just my 2 cents.

If the opposite argument is that supplying Saddam (a butcher who used chemical weapons on civilians) is offset by our supply of arms to Iran so our enemies could kill each other off, then is it really any surprise that neither nation is very fond of us?

And re: bombings, there was a book in the reading material that Ron Paul offered to Rudy Guiliani that was by some expert which claims that suicide bombing is almost always a response to occupation. When people feel that they are occupied, some will suicide bomb.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Pape#On_suicide_terrorism

http://www.amconmag.com/2005_07_18/article.html

 

let me see offhand , the contras, the death squads in guatamala in the 70s, the people who overthrew the president of chile in 1974

http://www.omnicenter.org/warpeacecollection/dictators.htm

Some of those are bit reaching because they seem to equate support of some US companies as US support , but either way google some of the names

You know that we helped overthrow the elected leader of Iran when he was going to nationalize the oil industry there, right?

Probably one of the biggest reasons they hate us, right there, at least intially

How about the saudis, they have a royal family, is there anything more unamerican as that? They chop off peoples heads for being gay and make woman wear burkas and shit just like the taliban.

I think there are death squads in columbia right now supported by us

http://www.guardian.co.uk/colombia/story/0,,1959864,00.html

 

Interesting So, you were defending people, who ordered 9.11 ?

The truth is, you were fighting against Russia indirectly, via Afghanistan, don't talk this BS, like you cared about Afghanistan, etc. This is obvious and it is still continuing in the US political model with other countries.

 

How many times do I have to type this? We supported the northern alliance during that invasion. The taliban came into power during the 90's and overthrew the alliance, then formed an alliance with OBL. The northern alliance is the same group of people we put back in power after 2002.

 

ok....so you say you were defencing people of Afghanistan, was that your main goal?

How come in 90s we survived with these "psychopaths" ? Did the situation changed that dramatically?

 

the nothern alliance are heroin dealing war lords

the taliban was able to take power because they war lords were so bad

ironic again isn't it, our allies are heroin dealers

 

Let's see. During the 90's; our embassies were bombed in several places, our warships were attacked, people were kidnapped and killed, in 93 the WTC was attacked. AQ was behind the Mogadishu attacks, the drove the US out of Somalia and is used as a template as the Iraq situation today. And oh yeah, we had a direct attack in this country in 2001 - do you remember that? So yes; the situation changed dramatically. Doing nothing clearly wasn't working.

I don't pretend to know the goals of our involvement; I'd guess it was to make sure the Soviets didn't win. And they didn't. I don't think the people were our primary reasons to be there, but having Soviet occupied Afghanistan didn't serve our interests, just like a Taliban occupied Afghanistan doesn't serve them now.

Are you saying that you don't care if the Taliban is there, in control, killing and oppressing everyone?

If that's all you can see Ferret. I guess they are the same. But if you look at the bigger picture; who is better in control of the country? Northern Alliance or the Taliban? Who is in league with terrorists and who isn't? Who is staging attacks all over the world and who isn't? Taliban wasn't any better on the heroin issue, so I don't even see how its relevant.

 

Well, let's see, in 90s we had Chechen war with arab troops coming in somehow, we had numerous blow ups, including capital Moscow, we had Beslan, etc.

What about now? 90s were much worse than it is now. There's a peaceful way to keep out of this terror in the country then, I guess? So, situation isnt dramatic, it is when you make mistakes.

honestly, I don't, I will never meet one in my life, why should I care about someone miles away? If everyone would be caring and sending their troops and arms like you are saying - there would be wars each day everywhere. And you don't care as a whole country, there are other reasons behind "care".

 

What are you talking about? The Russian/Chechen problem? You think there is peace there with islamists? Didn't the chechens kill a bunch of people in a theatre, blow up a school among other things recently?

If anything, Bush and our government have been wrong in asking Russia to take it easy on the Chechens. The chechen issue is why Russia is confusing; but anyways.

They -attacked- us. They attacked other countries. Blew up crap everywhere during the 90's and early 00's. It's not a difficult concept.

 

Which is why it's a good idea to look at why we were over there, and who we choose to side with in these regional disputes. This enemy of my enemy thing is not working out so good.

 

*shrug* That's nice; but we went into afghanistan to take out a regime that attacked us.

I agree. That sometimes the enemy of my enemy turns out to be my enemy too. But when you are looking at a current situation; its hard to see 10-20 years down the line. Hindsight is easy.

 

well I'm sure the terrorists have plenty of contacts in the northern alliance, they let bin laden go remember

Also the taliban banned heroin production and the United states sent them $10 million dollars because of it

They were very effective in stopping drugs they either killed or cut off the arms of anyone with drugs, but hey who cares about the druggies right?

 

Who is saying they are perfect. I'm asking a simple question. Which is better? Terrorists/Taliban or the Northern Alliance?

Pakistan isn't helping out too much with OBL either. That's besides the point.

Do you purposefully believe things that aren't true?

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2001/10/04/MN67246.DTL

 

http://www.cato.org/dailys/08-02-02.html

lol, they banned it in 2001