Iran caught Red Handed delivering weapons to Taliban

Isn't Iran part of axis of evil? Isn't U.S. trying to pass different resolution against in Iran in UN? I think when you call a country evil and start financial and economical embargo against them, then they consider themselves your enemy, don't you?

Was U.S involved in Afghanistan conflict with Russia? It didn't stop them from supplying talibans with sophisticated weapons. There is no proof that Iran has actually supplied these weapons but even if they have done it then what is the difference with their actions and U.S. actions before?
I don't enjoy anyone getting killed but it seems you enjoy some killings while you get upset when the other side shoots back.

That is absolute BS, repeated endlessly by bunch of morons. Show us where did Iranians said that anybody who is not Muslim, should be killed.

 

Honestly its bad and all but arms sales to scumbags go on all the time, US companies sell arms to half the POS dictators around the world

Because we fight somewhere do you really think the arms market stops moving?

I would also say how did they go from enemies to friends, what policies helped push iran and the taliban togather?

I would also add that the "terrorists" that iran is involved with arming are the locals and the side that we hope will end up getting rid of al queda in there. which is kind of ironic

 

So your answer is "yes, I support Iran arming people who are killing my countrymen and here are my justifications as to why."

The taliban didn't come to afghanistan until the 90's. We supported the northern alliance before that because of a Russian invasion. Do you think that afghanistan should have been taken over by the Soviet Union?

We invaded the country in 2002 because they attacked us, after the taliban come to power during the '90's. The situations are entirely different, but you probably cannot see that. Too busy defending people who want you killed.

Iranian leadership regularly says it wants to blow Israel off the map. The president gets chants of Death to America during his rallies. These are not difficult concepts either.

You've asked and answered your own question. Iran wants to kill us. Taliban want to kill us. What do -you- think brought them together? Do you think Iran should be arming the Taliban, Ferret? Or be involved in the Iraq conflict at all?

 

I would like to know who are these NATO officials?

Don’t you find it odd that both American and Afghani governments stating that they have no evidence and yet NATO saying Iran caught Red Handed delivering weapons to Taliban?

 

umm neither are in our interest, so they are bad for us

but being neighbors to Iraq it would be pretty unlikely the wouldn't get involved

if there was a civil war in mexico with china occupying the country I think we be involved

 

So what you say is that you need a picture of an iranian man with an evil mustache handing a weapon to the Taliban? Is this what you'd like to see? Weapons identical to the ones found in Iraq that are linked to Iran and weapons used by the Iranian guard is simply insufficient?

Looking for some sort of reasonable justification of doubt, or an excuse?

 

So, we had no reason to invade Afghanistan, is that your point now? They were peacefully doing nothing to us for a decade or so, right? Not blowing up embassies, a couple of buildings (you might have heard about it), and our warships as well? No reason at all. No interest. Riiight.

So you are happy and expect them to be involved of killing troops? Or do you just expect it? And since they -are- involved, you propose to let them keep killing people on our side or what? I know you are of the leave right away variety and let whatever happens happen; but come on

 

I go by what High ranking officials say with their presented evidence.


What more do you need:

High ranking officials from America, Afghanistan as well as NATO don’t have any evidence and do not blame Iran and yet you do?


No Proof Iran Supplying Weapons to Taliban, US General Says

McNeill, commander of the NATO’s 36,000-strong International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) said:

 

Who cares about official sources when there is always unnamed officials in NATO, CIA, ..... that contact some moron blogger who supports Bush?

 

Poor Iran being blamed unjustly, they would never ever do something like that! They just want to be friends with the whole wide world and hold hands. They are probably praying for peace right now!! Why can't we just quit falsely accusing these poor victims?

 

you know what sort of funny a few years ago we were selling WMDS, helicopters and guns to saddam to kill iranians

it kind of seems funny to here "OMG the outrage" about some of their arm sales

ugly stuff happens out there in the world of arms sales

 

Yeah, it's all rotten.

 

New Zealand IMO - outta the way of australia (in case they get involved).. and has no armys or anything to piss anyone off

 

That is funny, you are the second person that suggested that. I don't know much about New Zealand, but I'm interested now. Sounds like a nice country. Let's all move to New Zealand!

 

Yes, I’m always sceptical about the "unmanned officials" thingy. But here I presented the statements of named officials, all of whom confirmed that there is no such evidence of Iran supplying arms to the Taliban. My quotes were named from: the US Defense Secretary Robert Gates, Afghan President Hamid Karzai and McNeill commander of the NATO force.

Yet everyone seems to blame Iran for the catastrophic failures of the American led wars.

 

I think we have covered this. Didn't work out so good with Saddam.

lorien, I'm curious to know what became of the Northern Alliance after the Afghan/Russian war? Did they hand their weapons back in? Did they disband and return to their lives as simple goat herders and farmers?

My friends from NWFP tell me that the mujahideen that comprised the NA became the Taliban and had the weaponry we provided to make governmental control a reality.

Perhaps another case of the enemy of my enemy eventually turning on me?

As an aside, many people may not be aware that Afghanistan is far from an industrialized nation.

http://www.umsl.edu/services/govdocs/wofact2003/geos/af.html

 

Didn't they fight and lose with the Taliban? I'm sure after the defeat, the Taliban got a nice bit of weaponry from the people they killed that wasn't used. They also got a lot of money from opium, correct? And not to mention their links with OBL and Al Qaeda gave them access to a lot of things.

I think your goal here is to blame arming of the Taliban on the US; but I don't believe that washes with a more realistic assessment.

Probably, if NATO is defeated in Afghanistan, Iran would (possibly) either regret its help of the Taliban or align themselves more closely with them. Either way, Iran's involvement in killing soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan is very apparent.

I think that's what Ferret was alluding to earlier. He mentioned that US troops were happy insurgents were trying to kill AQ in Iraq. I think that was the US hopes there too. By killing off AQ, it means the insurgents easier to deal with in the end; but that didn't pan out too well. The US is still battling both sides, with obvious help from Iran.

 

Well a lot of the above facts are due to the Taliban. Under the Taliban women were not allowed to go to school and the schooling that individuals were taught consisted of radical forms of Islam.

Also while we were supplying Saddam with weapons, we were also supplying Iran with weapons as well so you cannot use that argument.

Iran as a nation is great but a few individuals are what ruins the image of an entire country. When the president of a nation makes extremely stupid comments about 6 million+ people not being killed and says he wants other countries wiped off the map then you know you have a problem.

They want regional peace but they supply these terror factions that brutally massacre innocent people of Iraq and Afghanistan. About 70% of the civilian deaths in Iraq is by these so called "freedom fighters" How is blowing yourself and dozens of others up fighting for freedom? It's ridiculous.

 

It's hard to believe you can be so non-challant about a country (who is not involved in the conflict) arming people who are killing soldiers from this country; trying to overrun the country and, once again, install some middle age totalinarianism as had been previous to our invasion. And chalk it up to "whelp, strange things happen" . Seems like you forget what happened last time this same group, the Taliban, had the country. Or don't care. Either way. And this time, they are being backed by Iran. Does this sound like a good scenario to you?

If you examine your apparent beliefs, they'd:

Leave Iraq. Essentially give it up to Iran/AQ or whoever takes charge.
Give up Afghanistan (not our problem, as you just said). Give it up to Iran or AQ or whoever takes charge.

Then we can say, congratulations, essentially all of the middle east is in the hands of middle age psychopaths who want to see the west destroyed. That's a mighty fine position there, isn't it?

 

^^^ You are exactly correct. I hate how people try to debate these topics and they don't make a single real point. All they can do it throw out lies and try to bash you. Look at aljazeera.com So many racists there. They go on and on about killing every single american, jew, british, and more. Yet they blame us for thinking they are insane.