google is cheating publishers

Discussion in 'AdSense' started by hyd26, Jun 4, 2007.

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    I think google can save publishers from click fraud.It has capacity but intentionally to cheat publishers google is just watching click fraud and banning somany innocent publishers.This concept is useful for advertisers only
     
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  2. koan

    koan Well-Known Member

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    Well considering your recent blog, it seems you're a MFA sites seller so.... this looks like the usual whining from spammers.
     
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  3. yangyang

    yangyang Banned

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    What is an MFA site?
     
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    sachin410 Illustrious Member

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    #4
    Made-For-Adsense
    or
    Made-For-Advertising

    MFAs.
     
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    Teh-Uploader Peon

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    made for adsense
     
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    Zerosleep Established User

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    But dont Google Send an Warning Email before BAN you (Sometimes) because I've got 1, months back
     
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  7. Travis

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    Google can't really "save" publishers from it...I'm sure they see irregular clicks (if you're talking about people getting click bombed)...and really the only way to stop it would be to remove the publisher (if the publisher was thinking they could have taken the ads off their site before it got to that level of extreme and before Google would have had to step in). If you've made someone mad at you to that extent it's likely that their not going to stop, thus the only way to eleviate the problem.

    Now if by click fraud you're referring to the people that click their own ads? They do catch them, a lot. Most are caught when they get to "Payment in Progress" and clicks are analyzed.

    There are no doubt cases where someone is innocent and such...and they get banned by mistake, but google has to protect the respect of their ENTIRE program, so they get farther by being hard-asses and instilling fear into people (Hell, I'd kiss Google's feet if they told me to, as well) then just going with "oh, okay -- do better next time".

    If you mean from an Advertisers perspective...people have demonstrated that you can detect click fraud on your own, and can contact Google and they will likely refund the associated money. It seems impossible for them to track EVERY click, and at some point there is responsibility that lies with the advertiser, because how many millions of clicks are going through their system per minute? Yeah, I don't think they have THAT many servers lying around to analyze those so in depth.

    Just my 13 cents.
     
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    zexy Guest

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    ... or just ignore these clicks ;)

    With their "highly sophisticated / advanced, etc." algorithms Google have to ban publishers when they got click bombed?
     
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  9. brandnewx

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    Google should just give publishers ability to filter out clickbomb. Everyone even including stupidest people can detect clickbomb. Even a small kid knows that only vandal generates 20 or hundreds of clicks in a few hours. If you can ban the IPs and refund those clicks by yourself, problem solved.

    I have debated this point not long ago.
     
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    I think the reason it will be expensive for them to store each ip and ban them so it is less expensive to ban a publisher
     
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    sachin410 Illustrious Member

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    Don't underestimate Google...they can store all the IPs in this world and ten other planets like Earth.

    It is Google's ability to store and process enormous data, that has made it so successful.
     
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    May they're bigger than this world, but why they struggles for a simple solution preventing publishers??
     
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    Actually their tracking system is really good and invalid clicks are not counted...
     
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    i think yes i think there too
     
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    I think click fraud is far less than the figure suggested by Clickforensices or whatever their name was. I think a great way greatly reduce click fraud even more will be to reduce the number of clicks from a single IP for a particlar site to 1 a day.
     
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    I think people should be able to disable clicks people made on their sites in their adsense CP.
    Then the good publishers would remove any click bombs, and the people doing click fraud would be banned by google.
     
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  17. edbravo

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    Yes, I am bloody mad with Google. They are blood suckers and the web biggest cheaters. I think they are worst than those African emails you get saying HELP ME I GOT MILLIONS. Many of my friends had their account banned for nothing they did wrong. Once you hit the $100 mark, Google team will build some stupid accuses to ban your account. The worst thing is they will ban your account and you can’t even get a reply by those idiots, adsense team. They will send you stupid accuse just to avoid paying you. The will never touch the BIG boys even though they are breaking adsense TOS. Heaven will fall if I am telling lies. I even can prove how they cheat. Go to this site
    http://movie-mammoth.blogspot.com/
    HTML:
    and
    http://lemon-lawyers.blogspot.com/
    HTML:
    . Its so clear cut that Google let them go scoot free even you make a complaint because they are big boys. Try it, and I will bet my life, in 30 days time this site will still have the adsense ads. This site are warez and it breaches adsense TOS for distributions of illegal copyright materials, that’s movie. Moreover, they instruct their viewers to click their ads on another site. Try clicking their FREE DONATION picture in blue and read their guidelines. The reason why Google let this site go without banning their adsense is because they have many viewers. Isn’t this a BIG scandal by Google. They cheat the advertisers and suck the publisher’s blood. I have removed all adsense ads from all my sites and told them to “ffo kcuf”!!! and I will never ever again use adwords. What more your people need as proof? :mad::mad::mad::mad:
     
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  18. movidalatina

    movidalatina Well-Known Member

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    lol - This thread is funny, and what's even funnier
    is the Google apologist like TRAVlS - Of course
    Google is ripping people off - what other business model
    can the share holders click/generate money for the company
    whose stocks they own, thousands of clicks a day??
     
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  19. ReadyToGo

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    Is it just me, or does this sentense not make sense? :confused:
     
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    Yes but there is nothing that publishers can do about it. Google is the dominant of the web traffic, Google not nothing to lose by losing a publisher.

    This is my 2 cents.
     
    JC007, Jun 5, 2007 IP