9/11 The Explosive Reality Video

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  1. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #21
    LMAO! Like clockwork, here comes mother AGS to console the alex jones sheep!

    Wish I still had a link to the steel beams that melted from fuel in San Francisco a few months ago.

    AGS, remember when Lorien was owning you the last time you tried to absolve terrorists of their crimes? You ran away from the facts and wouldn't address them!
     
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  2. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #22
    So, did they run up the buildings after the planes hit to plant the explosives or was this done beforehand? Bush was only in office for 8 months before it happened; do you think he set the wheels in motion the second he walked in the door; or did the previous administration have a hand in it too? Maybe the firefighters planted the bombs on their way up the stairs?

    It was built atop an electrical station; so it only had 4 major supporting beams. One of those beams were destroyed by the falling debris from wtc 1 or 2. About 25% of one of its walls was gutted. This, combined with the unique design of the building made the collapse happen. All of this is well documented.

    Besides, given that 2 planes hit the towers; wouldn't it have made more sense to slam a plane into WTC7 as well? Keeping the theme? Why blow 1 building with explosives and hit the others with planes? Seems like a good conspiracy could keep a theme, dont ya think?
     
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  3. ronmojohny

    ronmojohny Well-Known Member

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    #23
    If you look at the videos of building 7, it collapsed onto itself, perfectly, If one of the support beams had failed as you say, the entire building would not collapse perfectly upon itself.
     
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  4. AGS

    AGS Notable Member

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    #24
    Larry had it all covered years before 9/11 mate. ;)

    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpa...93AA25751C0A96F948260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=1
     
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  5. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #25
    It didn't collapse onto itself perfectly; you say. One side fell first (the one with the missing beam) causing the other side to fall inward. The physics involved is not complex.

    I suggest you read this:
    http://www.fema.gov/pdf/library/fema403_ch5.pdf

    It actually contains detailed schematics of the building; how it collapsed etc. While, yes it does come from the government; it is actually detailed as opposed to a video that doesn't have anything technical about it. Real science is involved here.

    I do congratulate you though on not hiding behind "open mindedness" and admitting your trutherism. It's a big step.
     
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  6. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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  7. ronmojohny

    ronmojohny Well-Known Member

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  8. AGS

    AGS Notable Member

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    #28
    You are so controlled by FOX that you are not even reading my links lorien.

    Forget your controlled mainstream media BS for a bit and do some reading, it's not too long and there are not too many difficult words in it. If you get stuck on any of the words give me a shout and I'll put it into "O'Reilly speak" for you. :p
     
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  9. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #29
    Or, you are so controlled by alex jones, you are not reading the links others have posted, either now, or in the past.

    ronmojohny, take a look at this thread where I debunked alex jones predicting 9/11, complete with references. Some people may be "shocked," but alex jones isn't the beacon of truth some make him out to be.
     
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    ly2 Notable Member

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    #30
    As oppose to....what? Alex Jones?
    lmao
     
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  11. TommyNY

    TommyNY Peon

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    #31
    This magazine did an exhaustive review of all the facts and have concluded that all of the conspiracy theories are false.

    The magazine is not an agenda driven periodical and took on the review purely from a science perspective.

    I live 15 miles from the Twin Towers...it was a bad day for my city

    despite the fact that 9 million plus live here it was near impossible to not know someone who died

    to stand in my backyard and watch the airforce jets fly overhead was very sobering

    to actually see the smoke from the Towers was beyond words.

    Read the article and learn the facts...its an insult to the innocent who died that day to alter the facts of their murder to suit a political agenda

    read the article
     
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  12. iamneo

    iamneo Peon

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    #32
    You are stupider than the OP. Your statements are equally lame regarding liberals.

    Liberals argue for easier sentencing for pedophiles? Liberals hate america?? What are you talking about?

    Perhaps you need to see how many more conservative religious heads are GAY, by their OWN confessions and stop attacking liberals. More Hypocrisy and foolish statements from the religious right wings. Choose a leader with IQ greater than 70 and GPA more than 2.0 .. Perhaps someone will listen to you then.

    If someone is anti-war "they are liberals who hate america & support pedophiles".

    I don't think 9/11 was a conspiracy. I do believe war on Iraq WAS WRONG. If anything, they should have stopped IRAN.


     
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  13. dgridley

    dgridley Guest

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    #33
    I don't necessarily believe 9/11 was part of some general conspiracy, but I also haven't completely discounted it.. I DO like to make posts like these to see what comments it brings and try to follow the links and reasoning of both sides.
     
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    ly2 Notable Member

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    #34
    So now I'm religious?
    I'm just pointing out that I don't understad how any self respecting man could be a liberal. Women, I can understand, but a man? lol
    And yes, the majority of liberals hate America. They hate how the country was founded and what it stands for.

    What does Conservatives being gay have to do with anything?



     
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  15. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #35
    how about? how about? how about? are you acknowledging that the previous points you made are obviously false then? If you want to keep moving the target, I understand. This is a common tactic, but I've been down this road before with AGS. And he keeps moving the target and not replying to previous points I've made.

    I dont listen to Alex Jones. So I cannot comment on him. He thinks corn has AIDS. I think that says it all right there, doesn't it?

    I read the entire article, AGS. I wasn't sure how it related to anything. I know you think 9/11 was a jewish conspiracy; but your link doesn't do much for me. Put me in the proper frame of mind if you wish my assistance.

    Maybe not. but you are quickly parroting all of their talking points and clearly, you have done little or no research on your own. There are sites that totally debunk every conspiracy theory. I've done so here, many times. AGS doesn't even try to defend his 9/11 theories anymore; read his previous 9/11 threads and see how many times he walks away like a crying girl.
     
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  16. ronmojohny

    ronmojohny Well-Known Member

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    #36
    Alex Jones predicted that our government would slam planes into the world trade center to justify a false war months before it happened. His broadcast has been confirmed by many people who listen to him. Do you think it was just a "lucky guess"?
     
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    #37
    U don't even know what conservatives stand for and you are conservative.. Wow..

    Who are anti-gay? who preach being Gay is a sin?? It shows the hypocrisy.

    Some guys says, 911 was a conspiracy and it automatically is assumed they are liberals who hate america..

    Why do I even bother.. If you leader has IQ < 70, you can't be any higher.. Ah well..

    Using money on useless wars, when it can be used to fund education (much need in cases like yours), Health, retirement for elderly. Instead, you are spending money killing innocent iraqi women and children.

    Why blame liberals, whole world hates America for the crap they do.


     
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    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #38
    No. He did not say that. He said that there would be a terrorist attack. And OBL would be blamed for it. You are adding the details necessary to make his prediction credible to yourself.

    Given that OBL had attacked us on several occasions during the 90's this wasn't a huge leap. And, if you look at the news prior to 9/11, you can piece together a trail if you have the hindsight as to what to look for.

    This is assuming the tape he has there is real anyways. But in the best light; it is not a really out of bounds prediction; is it?

    But; let's assume that he did -know- this would happen. He did nothing to prevent right? So, he is either complicit in the terrorist act (he had foreknowledge, but did not prevent it) or he is an accessory and part of the conspiracy; isn't he. Are there any other options?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/911truth.org

    Here is a list of his predictions after 9/11:

     
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    #39
    I watched the first 30 - 40 secs & had to stop, i felt it was a waste of time, what info is this video supposed to contain lol
     
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  20. ronmojohny

    ronmojohny Well-Known Member

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    No, if you listened to the broadcast in it's entirety (not just the clip I posted) He clearly states planes were to be used on the world trade center. And he did a call to action by posting the white house phone numbers and urging people to call. (did you even listen to his broadcast)?
     
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