I don't understand Google anymore! HELPPP!

Discussion in 'Google' started by qman, Jun 1, 2007.

  1. #1
    We try to optimize and increase the position for this page on google

    search and it looks like is imposible.
    The page address is: http://www.shoedeals4u.com/1-born.htm
    or go to shoedeals4u dot com and click on born.

    The targeted keywords are : born shoes

    For the last year we submited this page to many directories, we

    created articles to include links to this page, we optimized the

    page for that group of keywords.

    The age of the website is 5 years.
    The page has a pr 3 with google.

    If you will do a search on google for ' born shoes' you will find

    our page on page 12. I don't understand why.


    I would very much appreciate clarity on this as is driving me crazy

    and I can't find any relevant info anywhere.

    Many thanks.
    :confused:
     
    qman, Jun 1, 2007 IP
  2. 2003m2003

    2003m2003 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    863
    Likes Received:
    17
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    138
    #2
    I feel you pain.

    What I can say, other site (at least most of them) before yours, might have old, 'good back links' and 'good' content than yours. Keep on working, that is what all of us doing.
     
    2003m2003, Jun 1, 2007 IP
  3. Xeron.seron

    Xeron.seron Banned

    Messages:
    184
    Likes Received:
    5
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #3
    Earning more backlinks will help in seo. If you would get your site to a PR5, you'll see it on the first page for that keyword.
     
    Xeron.seron, Jun 1, 2007 IP
  4. candj

    candj Banned

    Messages:
    450
    Likes Received:
    11
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #4
    I have also the same words.
     
    candj, Jun 1, 2007 IP
  5. qman

    qman Member

    Messages:
    5
    Likes Received:
    0
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    #5
    Thanx
    We work hard on that, but google doesn't index all the new links that we created.
     
    qman, Jun 1, 2007 IP
  6. oseymour

    oseymour Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,960
    Likes Received:
    92
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    135
    #6
    you are guilty of keyword stuffing......born appears about 30 times on that page....I stopped counting at 20.....

    your "paragraph" about born shoes are just some sentences repeated twice...

    the page is horribly optimized....It is ranking exactly where it should be.
     
    oseymour, Jun 1, 2007 IP
  7. oseymour

    oseymour Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,960
    Likes Received:
    92
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    135
    #7
    PR has nothing to do with rankings....
     
    oseymour, Jun 1, 2007 IP
  8. monosodium

    monosodium Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,028
    Likes Received:
    50
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    100
    #8
    any page with blinking text automatically goes to beyond page 10 on the serps ;)
     
    monosodium, Jun 1, 2007 IP
  9. monosodium

    monosodium Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,028
    Likes Received:
    50
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    100
    #9
    i agree. the page needs a more google-friendly structure.
     
    monosodium, Jun 1, 2007 IP
  10. abac401

    abac401 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    128
    Likes Received:
    5
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    145
    #10
    79 outbound link in your page
    decrease your outbound link or nofollow
    Top ten in this keyword is almost PR4
     
    abac401, Jun 1, 2007 IP
  11. Xeron.seron

    Xeron.seron Banned

    Messages:
    184
    Likes Received:
    5
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #11
    I must object. I know people whom earned more backlinks which increased their search engine position.
     
    Xeron.seron, Jun 2, 2007 IP
  12. qman

    qman Member

    Messages:
    5
    Likes Received:
    0
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    #12
    seo ranter
    Hi,

    Thank you to all of you for the answer.

    You said that is horribly optimized, but if you do a search on google on for
    timberland boots we are on the 5th position. I am very confused how come that page is there and for born not.
     
    qman, Jun 2, 2007 IP
  13. oseymour

    oseymour Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,960
    Likes Received:
    92
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    135
    #13
    Yes...the backlinks are what increased the search engine position not the PR....PR is a side effect of linking
     
    oseymour, Jun 2, 2007 IP
  14. Xeron.seron

    Xeron.seron Banned

    Messages:
    184
    Likes Received:
    5
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #14
    PR = Backlinks
    Backlinks = Better Search Engine Position

    So its still correct to say that PR will vary your Search Engine Position
     
    Xeron.seron, Jun 2, 2007 IP
  15. oseymour

    oseymour Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,960
    Likes Received:
    92
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    135
    #15
    the paragraph with the description of timberland makes sense and actually describes timberland boots....and you didn't repeat the same paragraph twice on the page...
     
    oseymour, Jun 2, 2007 IP
  16. qman

    qman Member

    Messages:
    5
    Likes Received:
    0
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    #16
    Thank you for your answers.

    Any suggestions for our internal linking, for the structure of the website?


    Thank you
     
    qman, Jun 7, 2007 IP
  17. mnymkr

    mnymkr Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,328
    Likes Received:
    32
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    120
    #17
    mnymkr, Jun 7, 2007 IP
  18. Darins

    Darins Peon

    Messages:
    255
    Likes Received:
    1
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #18
    first: increase backlink..
    second: increase backlink
    third: increase backlink
    backlink with the same anchor text: born shoes
    I see some website that having only 2-3 keyword on his site, no content, only link to deeper page but reach 1# in google for the keyword, when I see the backlink, the site have more than 1000 backlink form very nice site (pr4 or more) with the same anchor text.. backlink and anchor text are very important
     
    Darins, Jun 8, 2007 IP