Do you believe in Heaven?

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  1. ascend

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    #61
    Yeah, I believe there is heaven...
     
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    #62
    No! I don't believe heaven exists. Just another tool to control the masses.
     
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    #63
    Yes, sure. As a Jewish person, i believe in heaven and in hell. according to Jewish belief, there are 7 levels of heaven and several levels of hell (dont remember how many).

    each level is made for the soul of the same spiritual level - the better/worst is a person, he will be accepted or banned to the right level of hell or heaven.

    So guys, lets try to meet in the Seventh Heaven...
     
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    #64
    I ACCEPT IT AS A REALITY. Once we have some kind of experience such as out of body experiences, traveling around in inner dimension will prove beyond doubts their existence. I know heaven exist. There's a huge difference between knowing and believing. I don't believe but I know.
     
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    #65
    I would like to say that I am glad about your pursuit for the truth. After all, the truth only shall set us free. No one wants to false-believe in things. But our human nature/tendency for that effort is always unbalanced. We tend to understand the Bible or God Himself with our limited knowledge, vision, or brains, ending up with wrong interpretations, being caught up in legalism, or simply "knowing for the sake of knowing about it" rather than knowing God Himself. I am sure many theologians know about God, but I wonder how many of them know God.

    It is impossible for an imperfect creature to come to an understanding of the Perfect, unless the person finds the Way. So, it's always about Him rather than about us and our effort. The scriptures might give you some hints:

    "Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God;

    Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life." 2 Corinthians 3:5-6

    "As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit—just as it has taught you, remain in him." 1 John 2:27

    ** Note:
    1 John 2:27 doesn't discourage or suggest that one should not need to learn from another person. But if we are to learn about the truth, you know who He is. So, when the Teacher's true disciples have been given (the anointing) to teach people we can learn from them, but ultimately that anointing is the power to teach and lead one to the truth.
     
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    #66
    Here lies the problem kathiroly. You don't know. You believe there is a heaven. You believe because of your faith.

    You can't know because of faith. it violates the definition of faith. Faith is not knowing, but trusting anyway. If you KNOWthat heaven exists and the things in the bible are true, you have no faith in it. If you have faith, you don't know whether or not these things are real, but CHOOSE to trust and believe.
     
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    #67
    I wouldn't bother trying to explain it, he reckons he was shown heaven in some kind of outer body experience, he's obviously deluded.

    Un saludo ;)
     
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    #68
     
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    #69
    I have had 7 near death experiences. I put my survival and very existence down to the lord. Nothing other than that can explain it, and i have been a follower all my life.
     
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    I would personally call that "time and unforeseen circumstances".

    Col :)
     
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    #71
    Yes i believe in Heaven.

    Jay
     
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    #72
    Yes i believe in heaven. Jmike so thats what the show 7th heaven means:))

    Assense king , i also have been near to death once so i know what u mean in a way. 7 times? wow man , God must have been favoring u alot:)
     
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    #73
    I believe, but those who do not believe in God can not believe in Heaven and hELL.
     
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    #74
    Yes, I believe in Heaven, in God and Jesus Christ is my savior. :)
     
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    #75
    Yes I believe in Heaven and Hell. In fact Jesus spoke more about Hell in the Bible than Heaven.
     
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    #76
    Actually, he didn't. He spoke about Gehenna, and Gehenna is not Hell.

    Col :)
     
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    #77
    I believe in heaven, I believe in hell but not in the mainstream version of hell.
     
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    #78
    One must know that we should repent for our sins and be holy at all times.Suppose if a person is in act of sin and at that very instance he dies,he will certainly not reach Heaven at that time.All of us should be Holy at all times.
     
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    #79
    i only believe in heaven so that i can meet *exy chicks !!!!! :D :D
     
    Sherlock, Jun 7, 2007 IP