Wouldn't of it been better to attack Iran?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Johnny Inferno, May 28, 2007.

  1. #1
    I think that if the US attacked Iran instead of Iraq it would of been alot better.
    There are many reasons.

    a) You would get tons of support from the Iranians living in western countries (We want the damn moolahs killed or removed and exiled to frikken Saudi arabia or somewere)

    b) You would get support from ALOT of iranians in iran, especially the University students and the younger generation, theres alot of good people in iran that want Sharia law removed from and they want a fair democracy.

    c) Gain a major power in the middle east, Iran has alot more influence than Iraq.

    There are more reasons but Im brain dead right now, anyway :p
     
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  2. AGS

    AGS Notable Member

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    #2

    Yeah mate even more innocent people killed. That would be really good wouldn't it? :rolleyes:

    As for c) Of course the US wants Iran, but one country at a time buddy. Iraq already belongs to the US thanks to the Iraqi puppet government they have installed. Give the neocons time for another false flag and Iran is next.

    Relax mate, thousands more people will be killed over there (including a few more thousand US soldiers) but at the end of the day the corrupt US administration will get what they want so no need to panic at all, unless you are Iraqi, Iranian, a US soldier or have a member of your family that is a US soldier.
     
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  3. Johnny Inferno

    Johnny Inferno Active Member

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    #3
    Well ALOT of innocent people are already being killed by the regime, people are willing to sacrifice for change.
     
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    AGS Notable Member

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    Check my edit. :)
     
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    ly2 Notable Member

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    #5
    First you need to understand that GAGS supports people like Irans leader. Then you will be better prepared to debate with him.

    Just remember this:

    America = ALWAYS wrong.
    Jews = ALWAYS wrong.
    Iran = Just misunderstood.
    Terrorists that target innocent civilians = Only doing to because of America.
    Islam = Good
    Any other religion = Evil
     
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  6. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    Like the ones your al qaida buds are killing, that you never say a peep about?

    Here's what I hope for:

    1) We never have to be in a position to attack Iran

    2) That Ahmadeenaspunk will stop threatening Israel, the US and the "West" in general and go on about his business

    3) That Iran will forgo it's current mission of developing nuclear weapons

    4) That Ahmadeenaspunk will stop openly using the media to make genocidal threats towards Jews that AGS agrees with.

    5) That Ahmadeenaspunk will stop preaching that islam will rule the mountain tops of the world.

    6) That the mullahs would stop burying women up to their necks and stoning them to death.

    7) The younger generation will initiate an uprising and take their country back from the extremists that are currently run(ruin)ing it.
     
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    #7
    Forget AGS he just rambles on without any substance, he thinks if we go over there & kill one innocent person by accident we are already the bad guys.
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    I do believe we would of been better off attacking Iran first & then left Iraq for a bit.

    I respect what you say, more than anyone else Johnny as you are an Iranian. I know many Iranians want a change & i believe Iran could be a decent country in the ME if it just had decent leaders (not total nutcases).
     
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    I think a few nukes would have solved the whole problem....but hey, logic never works anyway.
     
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    #9
    I used to be against an US invasion, but now im not so sure anymore. The regime will not go away, invasion is the only option. But I dont think the majority of Iranians would support that, maybe in west, but not in Iran itself.

    I dont think any conflict will happen, Iraq is easy, evereyone live in a california sized nation, all people live along the rivers, its easy to controll.

    Iran is to widespread, there are citys like baghdad here and there, evereywhere. And to reach them you have to pass mountain chains.
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    If there will be a conflict wich I doubt I think America will pass this on like when libya and pakistan and north korea got nukes. But If something will happen it will be airstrikes, after that the regime will have more support and the shias in iraq will revolt. 60-65% Shias will start fighting America. It will make the 20% sunni revolt seem like the good old days.
     
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    GeorgeB. Notable Member

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    Don't be rediculous.

    There's not a single dictator in Iran that tried to assassinate George Bush senior.
     
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    LeoSeo Well-Known Member

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    That nuke'em all/kill'em all logic belongs to terrorists i suppose not civilised nations or its' members, not to mention it's the most extreme form of lack of empathy/humanity. Supporting something which would kill tons of civillians and on the other hand complaining about terrorism is absolute hypocracy, don't you think? Besides, if they have an enemy with a nuking threat, they could not be accused of implementing the very same in terms of protection.

    America and its' allies could easily find a way out of the situation if their administration(not their public, as i do not think their public majorly agrees with these, at the end it's their family members they lose for wicked & poorly made bloody economics under the name "war for democracy") could be less arrogant and stop seeing everyone else as nails when they are a group of hammers.

    But i need to add, i do not support Irani president either, going a bit too far, there's no example that i know of such attitude achieved anything. However, same counts for Bush as well.
     
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    pingpong123 Well-Known Member

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    D16man, yea lets take out the whole country, kill all the innocent women and childrean there because we have to take out teh regime that we were responsible for putting in charge of iran. Remember this name: MOSSADEGH.
    I dont know about u but im not arrogant enough to place the sentence of death on a whole country because of a regime that we indirectly helped get into power.
    Just imagine if they had the power to make that judgment over us. I sure as heck would be frightened as heck and most civilized humans sure would also.
     
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    SakaryaLee Well-Known Member

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    #13
    we already heard them before, didn't we ?

    They said, we would get support from iraqi people.. Look at them now, are they happy ?

    Could america really brought democracy ?
    How many people did Saddam Kill ?
    How many people did America kill ?

    let's just think about it.. time is not dreaming time...
     
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    Adsenseking44 Banned

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    #14
    I also blame the citizens of each country for not standing up against such brutality. It leads to democracy.

    The time to hit Iran was a few years ago. Im not talking about all out war, im talking about calculated air strikes. I presume Israel will do it within the next couple of months. Actually it may even be sooner. Ehmud Olmert is trying to remain in power, nothing will unite the Israeli people behind him like a squadron of Israeli F-16's hitting up Tehran.
     
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    just what the world need. another war maniac type kind of person.
     
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    Adsenseking44 Banned

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    #16
    Well to be an honest your not what the world needs. People like you are the reason why the world still has tyrant regimes in power. Im for peace, but unlike you i support war when its needed. You have to realize to get peace you need war sometimes.

    e.g Zimbabwe (thousands of people dying each day under a tyrant rule while Mugabe is living in numerous mansions there). No one has the balls to step up to him, not any other foreign government. Not even his own people.

    Also if you got what you want Saddam would still be in power gassing his own citizens, cutting off the limbs of his national under performing teams.

    And in 5 years time, when Iran has nukes and terrorist strikes become nuclear. Make sure to take some blame.

    The peace movements can be more detrimental than they think. The funny thing with the peace movements is when theres no wars anywhere they think the world is safe and lovely. But their is still tyrant leaders raping, murdering and doing other things to their people that the world isn't hearing about.

    So in a brief summary, we need isolate Iran's nukes for world safety. And sometimes we must realize we need force to bring some stability. On Iraq the numerous religious sect believers have got their wish with civil war. The US did everything to bring democracy.
     
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    #17
    that's the key. sometimes NOT all the times.
    north Korea might be developing nuclear weapon, but why US not trying to attack her? just give economy sanction?

    The question, are israel or US REALLY NEED to attack iran?

    and are you sure that iran really developing nuclear weapons? or you just saw it in the fox news?

    so should US attack them too?

    funny, but US DID support Saddam, and at that time US closed their eyes.


    what IF in the next five years there is no nuclear weapon in Iran? You not a fortune teller are you?

    so, after years the US troops in Iraq, is there any peace in there now?
    democracyis EXPENSIVE my friend. most third world countries can't support democracy.
    the economic MUST be stable first, so there is no money politics. when people are hungry, they will elect anyone who can give them food.

    I learn it from my own country.
     
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    Adsenseking44 Banned

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    #18

    Firstly learn how to type some english. Secondly how do they know Iran is accquiring a bomb? Well the intelligence reports that they spend billions on each year. Thirdly, Iraq is in violence because it is the will of the religious leaders their. The sunni's and shia's don't want peace. They never did. The US though did everything they could to remove a tyrant leader and install democracry.
     
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    Ha ha ha - I'm not native speaking english, I'm learning it.
    Are you native speaking english? because you make some misspell on accquiring and democracry :cool:

    Iraq??? I though we are talking about Iran? What the.... :confused:

    Btw: what is your nationality? are you an american?
     
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    Lol sorry my english aint that good. No it doesn't matter what nationality i am. Im not an American. I stand by my views. Morally and ethically correct.
     
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