Teaching creationism or evolution at school?

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  1. hereyago

    hereyago Active Member

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    #21
    I think they should teach both and let the studentss think about it.
     
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    allout Prominent Member

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    #22
    Teach evolution in Science class and teach religion in Social Studies. Most schools now teach Religions as part of a History Curriculum and in that they discuss the beliefs of each religion. Creationism is a belief and it differs in many religions on who created the earth and humans. I say to show what many believe and leave the rest to the students family to sort out.

    As far as evolution, it is widely accepted but is still just a theory that can not be proven without any doubt. However, it has been widely tested and has some strong scientific evidence to support it. As far as I know, Creationism has no proven scientific evidence and so it remains part of a Social Studies not Science.
     
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    #23
    You can't discredit evolution as being "just" a theory. Evolution is a fact. Darwinian Theory of Evolution by Natural Selection is a theory, but it's not "just" a theory.
    Scientifically speaking, a theory is not a speculation. By using the word "just," you are implying that it is.
    I agree with the rest of your post.
     
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    allout Prominent Member

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    #24
    Trust me as a teacher, I teach evolution and I am in no way trying to discredit it. However, it is still officially recognized as a theory.
     
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    #25
    Evolution is scientifically recognized as a fact and a theory much like gravity. You should know this if you teach evolution.
     
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    #26
    Gravity is proven again and again to be true.

    evolution is not and has very little real proof - just a few ideas that have no links, no proof.
     
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    #27
    I was gonna make that point but you beat me to it. :)

    Teaching creationism in schools is a ridiculous notion. That's what churches are for!! Ever heard of sunday school?

    It would also fly in the face of all the Muslim and Hindu students.

    But oh yeah, only christians know the real story... :rolleyes:
     
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    #28
    Creatures evolve all the time and it is proven in science. Cave dwelling species are discovered all the time with DNA links proving they once were something else but developed special adaptations for their environment. They evolved.

    I always plead with religious zealots to please not try to dismiss evolution as not proven. It immediately informs me that the person I'm talking to never even studied 6th grade biology and is therefore unworthy of discussing this with.
     
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    #29
    Evolution as a fact has been proven. It is the theory which explains this fact that has not been proven.
     
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    #30
    We know the effects of gravity but will don't really understand it - otherwise we would have anti-gravity machines, etc.

    We believe Mass is the cause - see Newtonian physics - however some physicists questions what gravity REALLY is.

    I think you view of what constitutes a FACT - shows you fail to be a really deep thinker.
     
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    #31
    Actually as an agnostic I fully accept that I cannot prove God doesn't exist just as much as I can't prove that he does.

    I think the problem lies with religion itself. Religion is human generated and is therefore inherently flawed. I think it's quite possible that God could have been an extra-terrestrial being or even a race of them. That would explain what religious zealots are always jumping up and down about... the question of what created us and the universe. And how this cant all have just happened by chance.

    Break out the tin foil hat jokes all you want but I leave you with this... the idea of aliens that posses genesis style technology capable of building worlds is just as plausible as a mythical being that's listening to our prayers.

    If you are a truly deep thinker and open your mind to the possibility that the bible could just be wrong or even misinterpreted with a few made up stories added in there for flavor you can truly see the possibilities of the universe.

    What we know and what we are discovering every day is astoundingly more interesting (and more important!) than the story of Jesus. Religion really gets in the way of that process but at the same time keeps us pacified as a society long enough for us to make those discoveries. So it has its place.
     
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    #32
    It is not my view; it is a scientific definition of the term "fact." Try again.
     
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