Thanks bro... I am so glad with the work done on BAMS ... looking forward to that new mod which ur making! Yup... I am also looking forward to what Chris has to say!
It really depends, if you are doing it annually or even monthly, more power to you if people are willing to submit.
well, I am planning to announce one with annual plan. But it's very reasonable I think annual or permanent won't matter much to submitters as long as the price is reasonable, IMO.
John Scott was one of the first to ride the wave of the Matt Cutts suckup crea, I cannot believe he did that. Someone I have respected for so long is selling out.
Exactly. I have always had respect for John Scott --I thought of him as one of the shrewedest promoter. But when I saw his post the other day --I was shocked to see such a great web enterpreneur react like that.
sorry to be a fence rider,but i would submit to both..if your promoting your site,then whats the difference?they are both highly promoted sites.i just made one of my sites yearly,but with reasonable prices and mods installed,i hope it doesnt scare ppl off..
I haven't read the referenced John Scott post either, but for those advocating annual links over permanent links in a directory, be aware that directories with an annual paid listing policy are blaring out the fact that they are link farms. Why directory owners would want to do this is obvious - more revenue. Anyone actually buying those links should be aware that if they do so they'd better not be counting on a PR boost.
*sigh* It's not rocket science - see the long thread on paid links in the Google forum here. If you are buying links for advertising and the directory is prominent enough to send you trafiic, then carry on. Most people buying links in smaller directories do so for the PR vote - and they should be aware that buying a link on an annual fee directory is almost certainly not going to accomplish that.
Right, and looking at my stats, there are about 20 directories which provide me with pretty good direct traffic. Sure, being listed in 1k+ directories that number is not very high. But just because someone had a "Spiritual Awakening" and decided to drop annual fees doesn't mean everyone else should do the same.
It's not about a "spiritual awakening". It's about being honest about what you're selling and it's about being fully informed about what you're buying. The directory business is full of scam artists, as I'm sure you are aware. Let's not pretend that most people buying directory links in most directories aren't doing so because they expect a PR boost. Reputable directory owners either list or don't list a site. Charging a reasonable fee for the site review and listing is acceptable to Google. Charging an annual fee is a money grab and is a clear and loud announcement to all who care that what you're buying is a link on a link farm. A directory owner is free to sell such a listing. And people are free to buy those listings. But make no mistake about it: They will be reported to Google sooner or later and Google will take steps to discount such links
Welcome to the section minstrel -- I have always enjoyed your duel with Blogmaster Anyway --the BOLD lines above --where you say --directories charging annual Fees --are just Link Farms --is very distressing. Here we are talking about alive drectory that has become as Good as dir.yahoo.com, business.com, botw.com --Please follow this LINK to verify. So if you say Alive has become a link farm--for charging annual fees --so be it --as Yahoo, business, botw are also link farms according to you Moral Judgement
Not "according to me" and not a "moral judgement". I don't own Google. I don't even own shares in Google. I don't make decisions for Google. But Google does make decisions affecting search relevancy and they long ago served clear notice that they will continue to do what they can to protect that. The recent Cutts blog post was a very clear reminder. Ignore it at your peril.
Thanks -- I just visited the BLOG yesterday and went through the update. I saw LINUX was selling links to Poker, Gambling sites and Matt says --they are not getting the juice. Also I think --one should differentiate between Authority sites and normal sites. Alive has now become an authority sites --so the price for it is justified. I also have PR6 directory --but still there is a difference of heaven and earth between my PR6 directory and Alive which is also PR6. My point is --One's listing should be judged on its value ( Alive in this case being an Authority site) and not on other ground. It does not mean that Alive has become a LINK-FARM by transforming its listing to annual.
It's not a question of price or authority. It's a question of annual versus permanent. Read the writing on the wall. As I said above, it's not rocket science.
Sorry --forgot to mention. Yes --I understand its between permanent and annual. And I reckon --Google makes huge difference between an authority site and a normal site. My reasoning is about the value to list in a normal directory and an authority directory -like dir.yahoo.com($299/years), business.com($199/year) and botw.com($69.95/year). There are only 5 Authority directories in the world that Charge fees for reviews. Out of them 4 are charging annualy including Alive and one site-sift is charging for permanent listing. So 4 authority directories are link farms
I'm not asking anyone to take my word for it. Why don't you ask Matt Cutts? Also note the distinction between advertising and PR boost. Someone may well think that paying $299 for an ad in the Yahoo directory is well spent. Nothing wrong with that. Do you know that those links are providing any PR boost? And don't forget that the Yahoo Directory also includes unpaid links. A whole industry has built up around directories, which have multiplied like mosquitoes in a swamp or flies at a garbage dump. Most of them are not worth the trouble of filling out a submission form. Let's not pretend that Google isn't aware of these as a source of "noise" for their ranking algorithms. And let's not pretend they don't have the wherewithal to do something to counteract the noise.