When everyone running for president the establishment doesn't agree with is branded a conspiracy theorist (for seeing through the establishment smoke screen), this is where the conversation leads. I didn't suggest it was a conspiracy. It is what they want to do. They are open about it, if you actually listen to them. The fact that the CFR's membership is full of high-ranking government officials belies the idea that this is just some minor think tank.
LMAO! That's the most hilarious post you've ever made! Whoa nelly! The pot calling the kettle black! Except the kettle is stainless steel "but, but, but alex jones told us the conspiracy was true!!!!!!" Just another in a long list of "proofs" that you let alex jones do your thinking for you!
"They" want to do it. "They" are open about it. It's a pretty shitty conspiracy if everyone knows about it, isn't it? Keep ignoring the fact that it'd take a host of constitutional amendments to make it happen; that the public (right, left and middle) don't want to give up sovereignty and you have yourself a pretty crappy conspiracy, man. And you cannot even back it up by facts or anything, just a document from some dude about it. Just admit Briant, that you are scared brown people from other places want to take your job. Cuz thats what you are really worried about, isnt it? Brown people, from another country?
It's not a conspiracy, it's an open secret. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52788 Check out your Human Events http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=14965
Took you an hour to find this? Once again, dufus. Opinion pieces are not a conspiracy. It is an opinion piece. Criminies; is it really that difficult to understand? Again. A panel discussion. An opinion of some people who are not governmental employees. Geesh. You are gullible. I definitely have to make a conspiracy site. Easily persuaded people will believe anything. Have you completely glanced over how difficult anything like this would be to get passed? A complete rewrite of the constitution, approved by 3/4 of the state legistlators, 2/3 of the senate and house (or whatever the exact process it). The last amendment took over 100 years to ratify. Is that too difficult for you to understand?
It's not a conspiracy. I have given you ample documentation that the people who matter are pushing this. As for the constitution...I have no idea why you think anyone in Washington cares about that. Last time I checked the president has an obligation to enforce immigration law. These people disregard the constitution all the time.
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The administration does, yes. For 20 years (well 50 years if you wanna be realistic) immigration laws are passed and are not obeyed. Each time, the illegals are given amnesty (in one form or another) and a whole new mess is created. That's another issue. That's not your NAU BS. Tancredo is good on immigration; that's not the point. He believes in your whacky conspiracy theory and that's his problem. It's RP's problem too. [/quote]These people disregard the constitution all the time.[/QUOTE] Not following the laws that are passed is not disregarding the constitution. That's just shitty leadership And, if you want to get technical, the president can pass executive orders that tell his departments not to enforce a given set of rules during his administration. It happens all the time.
They want no separation between the countries. When they let anyone into the US, thus creating a labor subsidy, it's part of that plan. The president should be impeached if the doesn't enforce the laws he is sworn to uphold. The fact that he isn't and that the states are left holding the bag tells you how corrupt these people are.
These people disregard the constitution all the time.[/QUOTE] Not following the laws that are passed is not disregarding the constitution. That's just shitty leadership And, if you want to get technical, the president can pass executive orders that tell his departments not to enforce a given set of rules during his administration. It happens all the time.[/QUOTE] spp.gov Check it out pal. That's a "mutual defense, security, and trade" *treaty* that ORDERS each President to make a department for integrating the countries. "The Leaders also announced the creation of North American Competitiveness Council to fully incorporate the private sector into the SPP process." - SPP.gov I love how you think these think tanks have no power. Then why is the SPP.gov creating think tanks? The fact it has a "myth vs facts" section talking about the North American Union as a myth. then going on in the same explanation of saying how this treaty-that-isn't-a-treaty will help integrate the countries, just looks plain suspicious. How can it DO anything if it's NOT a treaty. Maybe it's as Tom Tancredo said, just a "benevolent conspiracy" with "memorandums of understanding between the countries". No doubt these people truly believe it's in the best interest of the world. You know if you told people in the late 19th century that the US government and international bankers were working to get us off the gold standard and onto a fiat money system, they would of called you crazy. Today we call it fact.
So you are equating a business environment that helps businesses operate in the 3 countries here as a political union between them and introducing the amero to back it all up? Come on; back off from this just a little bit and see the reality. It's more about cutting costs - getting imports into mexico, where they can offloaded cheaper than CA and getting them to stores and crap for resale. It's not about brown people taking over. So, here you are too. No facts or anything. Just suspicions, paranoia and everything that else that the brown people are coming. Right? As I asked Briant; anything undermining sovereignty would take a constitutional convention to undertake and a complete re-writing of our constituation, Canada's and Mexico's. Do you really think that's gonna happen or are you just worried about the brown people coming for your job? Seriously. Briant won't answer that will you? Are you afraid of them for some reason? No one in the public wants to cede our uniqueness to the UN, much less to anyone else. Get over it. An expanded free trade zone is good for everyone; but there is nothing about a merging of the political entities. Criminies.
This has nothing to do with race. Everything to do with national soveireignty. I'm sorry the government doesn't spell out what they are doing for you in big bold letters for all to see. I swear, if you lived in Nazi Germany you would be clueless with all the misinformation they could force feed you in today's internet society. WHY DID THEY CREATE THE SPP? Why does the new amnesty bill call for an accelerated attempt at the CFR's North American Union plan? Why are you so crazy? All I truly want is for us to stop handing visas to the countries we are at war with, and their allies. Inviting the enemy to dinner. The FBI terror list has some what 300,000 terrorists? Either you're completely wrong about the nature of the threat of these people immigrating here, or you could argue those numbers include a bunch of potential dissidents they plan to root out comes crisis time. Either way, you're wrong about something.
Why do you assume contents of a bill whose legistlation hasn't even been finalized yet, or signed or put into law? Are you crazy? The amnesty bill sucks; but the bad legistlation is not the NAU. Geesh. It's just a bunch of pussy politicians pandering to their repective bases for different reasons. You can argue this fine; but I think you should read the content of blogs and even posts here. They are all scared about mexicans coming to the country. Ever wonder why these same people don't fear an in flux of canadians? Hmmm..what's the difference there? Help me out. You are assuming an ulterior motive here; then assigning a conspiracy to it without even knowing any facts. as you previously said, all you have are suspicions (it looks suspicious). So you proceed on a point of view not supported by anything but your paranoia and expect me to go with you down this course? Come on now. Go to therapy if you need this sort of help. These brown people, right? I'm against illegal immigration. I'd like to see the borders enforced. I know the 6 guys arrested in NJ a few weeks back were illegal with like 75 past charges against them. Gutless politicians does not equal a conspiracy. Occam's Razor, look up on it.
"You are assuming an ulterior motive here; then assigning a conspiracy to it without even knowing any facts" Funny you did the same thing with the "these brown people" statement. I'm not racist, you're barking up the wrong tree, I'm marrying outside the race. But yes, I do think it is insane to be shaking down the 85 year old granny from alabama at the airport and treet mohammad hussein arafat the same as her. Catch my drift? Go to Israel, and understand how real flight security is done. Actually the borders are easy, it's halting visas that let them overstay that is a pain. And as for me, I've never said the Mexican border was our #1 priority. HOWEVER, Canada does allow our law enforcement many rights in their territories so we already know of many of the terrorists within their area just as well as if it were our own. Mexico however is not so advanced.
You need to be careful when arguing with these DP P&R sheeple Cyrus255 as the last guy that went hardcore was banned for it. A word of warning from AGS. The only reason I am still here is because I have refrained from calling members like GTech cunts, if you follow my drift.
I know how you and your crazy gang work GT. It is not difficult to figure it out. That dude Rub was canned out, I think it was for swearing too much, or maybe he just figured out that Bush is a controlled puppet that is going to destroy the world. Either way you and your loons got the guy banned.
I think it's possible for the world to have atleast one or two conspiracies that are real in a sea of misinformation. But these aren't malevolent conspiracies. These are just the opinions of a bunch of elitists who get together and "decide" on how best to rule the people. Sounds great were we not a democracy, not that I'm for democracies, myself. But maybe I'm a wingnut. As far as the Council on Foreign Relations they are an open book that openly advocated the North American Union, and we noticed within months the creation the SPP, radical moves towards insane amnesty bills that basically accept a fifth of Mexico's population. 1 step closer to annexation! yay?