How to compete over a TOP Keyword

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by jMike, May 25, 2007.

  1. #1
    Maybe I'm using the wrong jargon for this one, but what i mean is how can (I or even should I) try to compete with a high demand keyword? 5,790,000 in google. my site is relatively new (6 months) and the top 5 are at least 3 years old.

    there is no 123 step technique to it (or is it?!) would love to here your opinion on that.

    Thanks!
     
    jMike, May 25, 2007 IP
  2. chachi

    chachi The other Jason

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    Depends really. If it is your primary business, then you have to compete for the term (and related terms). Start with the related terms and work your way up. 6M results is competitive, but not the end of the world. Stick with the basics, create good, related content on your site that is structured properly for SEO. Then work on inbound links for all of your related terms. Hopefully, your domain name with help out by having some of your keyword included.
     
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    zee Banned

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    I rank high for a keyword that has over 11,950,000

    My competition sites are way too old and spend a lot of money on link building and maintaining their position. You gota stay focused and like Chachi said, keep working on your content and stick with the basics. Even though keyword in domain does help a lot but I can tell you that you can rank high despite having no keywords in your domain.

    Keep working on inbound links. A PR0 link today can be PR5 link tomorrow! Keep that in mind!
     
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  4. jMike

    jMike Guest

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    o.k. so far i have reached pr 3, which is fairly nice, but after deep investigating, i have seen that my competitors are using SEO companies. My site (like theirs) is an e-commerce site:
    1. I have articles section - to build up the content
    2. friendly urls, and titles accordingly
    3. blog with pr4 (myblog.wordpress.com) linking in
    4. few week domains linking in
    5. few good active sites linking in
    6. 98% of the pics have meaningful names (basketball.jpg, not uoiu8763.jpg)
    7. already in froogle+Live products

    and few other things also.
    still, i can say that im not even close to reach to the third page...

    what can really/surely have an impact on that? DMOZ? More Links (paid and non paid) what am i missing here...?!
     
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  5. zee

    zee Banned

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    Well, from the looks of it. You are not really missing anything. Stay focused and keep doing what you are already doing. Time is also an important factor that plays a vital role when it comes to SEO :d
     
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    Get strong backlinks from established sites with the right anchor text.
     
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    Remember also to be persistent and don't quit. That means all the effort you put goes to waste!
     
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  8. jMike

    jMike Guest

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    yep, have to be persistent... its a must
     
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    try to get relevants high pr back links from to those sites which are in the top 10 along several search engines.
     
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    try to read this link and makes your keyword top...

    Proper optimization and link building of sites are factors affecting SERPs :D
     
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    sweetfunny Banned

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    5.7 Million is not competative.

    Alot of relults in that lot won't even be targeting the term, it just simply appears on their page somewhere. Do a search for:

    Allinanchor:key phrase
    Allintitle:kephrase

    This will give you a better idea of whos targeting it. You will probably find it's around a million or lower.

    6 Months old shouldn't be a barrier, i've got a 4 month old site ranking top 3 positions for 120+ Million results terms and even beating Microsoft and Wiki.

    Just start with good strong on-page SEO, then start applying strong/related backlinks with your keyphrase as anchor text and if possible aim for a new page each day of informative keyword rich text.

    Diversify you backlinks, get them from link directories, article directories, social bookmarking, press releases, blogs and other websites that rank well themselves. This way if Google devalues certain links like article directories you won't drop like a rock.
     
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    I totally agree with the advice given by Sweetfunny for SEO.You can be creative enough to come up with your own strategy for the same.
     
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  13. jMike

    jMike Guest

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    sounds good, there are actually few things i havent done there...

    Thanks!

    ill ask this, but i know its not that the answer isnt that definite:
    assuming im doing all of the above+keep on doing what i did so far, how long do u think it would take to be on the top 10? (i know it hold tons of factors
    + the competition, but according to your experience...)


    p.s.
    Like your avatar
     
    jMike, May 26, 2007 IP
  14. sweetfunny

    sweetfunny Banned

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    Guessing when is a bit like guessing Lotto.

    However if it's your sig, see if you can get you code to validate and clean up the <head> of your code.

    Also use a .htaccess directive to 301 re-direct http://domain.com and www.domain.com/index.php both to www.domain.com

    What you have is called canonical URL's which will split your pagerank, as well as Google seeing them as 3 seperate pages with duplicate content.

    Your using plain .html keyword URL's which is good, just keep obtaining related backlinks with your keyword as anchor text. This is quite important in Google.
     
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    stay focused. if you can get a listing in dmoz. all my competitors have a dmoz listing. i do not. they outrank me for all major keyphrases
     
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    No problem, why not? My site is on the first page for "affiliate marketing", and I just wrote a small report about it. You can download it here:

    Google Top 10

    This will give you the right mindset, and some useful tips.
     
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    bess Well-Known Member

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    I am ranking for a competition of 111 million sites. Really I didn't try it, I just got there. I was targeting a market of 5-6 million competitors, but I also achieved the large market which by the way does not help me too much. What help you is the ranking and the search volume, not the market size. Either way, 5-6 million competitors is an achievable thing.
     
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  18. jMike

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    Did anyone here used BlackHat SEO methods/companies?

    Why not?
    or
    Why to use?
     
    jMike, May 27, 2007 IP
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    Yes there are but there are many gray hat here.
     
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    y go for black hat wen u can achieve thru white hat techniques itself. I use black hat just for trials or to experiment dats all. Dont wanna take risr:cool:
     
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