Paypal is a scam!

Discussion in 'PayPal' started by sandrodz, May 24, 2007.

  1. steffane

    steffane Peon

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    #41
    There are a lot of alternatives out there, all you gotta do is have the time for research and try out which works best for your business. I won't drop names though!
     
    steffane, May 25, 2007 IP
  2. Flif

    Flif Active Member

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    #42
    Discrimination in action. I was in two minds to use Paypal or to avoid it - for exclusively obvious reasons, I'll chose the second alternative. It is still weird to me - how come they have so terrible customer service in such very competitive market:confused:
     
    Flif, May 25, 2007 IP
  3. soori

    soori Peon

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    #43
    Is the story true....
    Am getting Confused
     
    soori, May 25, 2007 IP
  4. smartconsultant

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    #44
    I had a good experience though about a dispute.. though initially the long emails was a bit frustrating.. wait for the other person to reply to your email. But finally they decided in my favor and I got my 166$ back. It was for an ebay purchase.
     
    smartconsultant, May 25, 2007 IP
  5. Clive

    Clive Web Developer

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    #45
    I do believe it depends a lot on what type of business practice you follow. I'd set more restrictive filters when choosing who to deal with, and who to accept funds from. Stay away from unverified PP users, now that's a rule if you don't want unnecessary trouble.

    Then, try Google Checkout if you're in the US or UK. I have my account set up just did not yet start using it but things look quite promising. And there are no fees to pay till the end of this year.
     
    Clive, May 25, 2007 IP
  6. ForumDrop

    ForumDrop Peon

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    #46
    Hmm check out http://paypalsucks.com for all the dirt on PayPal.

    We have had numerous issues with them, including the theft of $910.00 of our money!
     
    ForumDrop, May 25, 2007 IP
  7. Clive

    Clive Web Developer

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    #47
    In my opinion, websites like paypalsucks.com and 1and1sucks.info are places where you can let your bad experience off your brains. But that cannot be taken as a rule I think. There is no company without angry customers, simply because you can't please everyone and then things get out of control with the unhappy part.

    I've been through bad 1and1 experience myself, too. Haven't had a single bad experience with Paypal, touch wood. But, if not Paypal then who? Anyone out there perfect? Luckily we have Google Checkout to investigate, and I would not guarantee it's the best option either. Time will show.

    When it's about money, be twise as accurate in your transactions.
     
    Clive, May 25, 2007 IP
  8. sandrodz

    sandrodz Peon

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    #48
    yes, leave and study on experience... unverified users can...
     
    sandrodz, May 25, 2007 IP
  9. itdevil

    itdevil Well-Known Member

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    #49
    3 months ago I sold some stuff to this a guy, to which he paid me via paypal

    Yesterday, PayPal email me that the person had started a chargeback though his credit card company. I replied PayPal with the proof of conversation we had with the guy :( but sadly today, PayPal have deducted $30 from my account

     25. May 2007 	Chargeback Settlement 	 Completed 	 ... 	-$20,00 USD  	-$10,00 USD  	-$30,00 USD
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    this really sucks, now i am $30 short :(

    I am going close my PayPal account now. I have had enough...
     
    itdevil, May 25, 2007 IP
  10. darwix

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    #50
    For those selling services I suggest you use some type of verification (phone etc..) because there is a lot of phishing sites, and a lot of accounts being stolen which are then used to purchase your services.
     
    darwix, May 25, 2007 IP
  11. Clive

    Clive Web Developer

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    #51
    Not sure everyone can afford a 10$ verification call for a $50 deal. I should say it's upto Paypal to protect us against fraudulent transactions. If they can't then we give up on using PP services, no other choice, is it. However, I hate to repeat myself, it all depends on what kind of business you do. If you sell cheap stuff to the public then be prepared to be scammed by thouse who do not pay to get things on the web.

    You can't fight them, you just can't. But you can avoid them by directing your business towards the proper market.
     
    Clive, May 25, 2007 IP
  12. lordofthemorning

    lordofthemorning Well-Known Member

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    #52
    lost $1000.00 to them recently. Even though their policy should have protected me. I contacted a supervisor and he is looking in to it.

    Probably won't matter though

    Paypal sucks
     
    lordofthemorning, May 25, 2007 IP
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    zinruss Notable Member

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    #53
    Paypal customer support is good. Please ring their number instead of email them. The operators are very supportive.

    1-402-935-2050
    4:00 AM PDT to 10:00 PM PDT Monday through Friday
    6:00 AM PDT to 8:00 PM PDT on Saturday and Sunday

    Please have this information available when you call:

    1)The telephone number listed on your account
    2)The last 4 digits of your credit card or bank account registered with PayPal

    I have a bad experience in domain selling. The purchaser charge back and i am nearly dead. I send several docs to domain name provider and i won the case. I should use escrow instead of paypal for domain selling.
     
    zinruss, May 25, 2007 IP
  14. sandrodz

    sandrodz Peon

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    #54
    its funny someone gave me negative reputation for this thread - this is ridiculous :) I can't even express my opinion and people jump out "its your fault" - what is my fault? what about scammers? maybe you do the same? scammers!
     
    sandrodz, May 25, 2007 IP
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  15. Clive

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    #55
    Don't take it as a fault, sandrodz. Rather use scams as lessons and remember to change business tactics as soon as you get to learn about chances to be scammed by someone. Good luck!
     
    Clive, May 26, 2007 IP
  16. powerball

    powerball Banned

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    #56
    kehnee , E-Gold as an alternative is safer and the only scam is the loss of funds, everything ewlse works fine.I have no problems with paypal , many people using for honest transactions.
    It is true , PayPal have some hidden surprises in their rules but we all read the rules and make arrangements flexible for trades to cater for what we buy and sell, like if you want to accept paypal for e-currency or e-recharge voucher numbers, vmi then you have to be prepared as buyer to wait a few months for clearing because the buyer can chargeback and you lose your money. Paypal has this in the risks section of their ToS
     
    powerball, May 26, 2007 IP
  17. Clive

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    #57
    Very funny, isn't that enough to draw a line?
     
    Clive, May 26, 2007 IP
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    mak4bd Banned

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    #58
    it's like " the only part of ur body not working, is ur heart!"
     
    mak4bd, May 26, 2007 IP
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    #59
    That's because the scammer transfered the money before paypal could put a hold on it.
     
    savagemic, May 26, 2007 IP
  20. priyakochin

    priyakochin Banned

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    #60
    The problem is that most of the online trading people accept paypal.
    So everyone is helpless !

    Hope pp will be down soon !
     
    priyakochin, May 26, 2007 IP