Which PHP is more good?

Discussion in 'PHP' started by fedarik, May 24, 2007.

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    fedarik, May 24, 2007 IP
  2. gibex

    gibex Active Member

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    1. what php version you use? php4 or php5?
    2. what you need from those frameworks?

    I'll consider Zend F, Seagull, eZ Components
     
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    fedarik Well-Known Member

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    Many of them asking me which is the good php framework. I want to suggest them one

    Personally i am using symfony, But i cant suggest symfony to others bcos the learning curve is steep and the concepts are a little bit difficult to understand.

    your selections dont have a builtin AJAX support.

    I heard that Cakephp is little more easy to learn and good for newbies.
     
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    tutankh Peon

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    Zend Framework, which i am personally using, is very good (for newbies too). And it has much more new modules. Check framework.zend.com

    Regards,
    M
     
    tutankh, May 25, 2007 IP
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    What is the point of using a framework anyway? It offers you no real benefits at all over using real PHP unless you don't know PHP, in which case it's worth learning.
     
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  6. fedarik

    fedarik Well-Known Member

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    The advantages of symfony over normal php i can point out :)

    1. Symfony supports structured programming compared to normal PHP.
    2.We can avoid a lot of presetting such as database configuration, Cache management, Error management , logging, testing etc
    3. Sumfony follows MVC Architecture.
    4. It hide normal mysql operations such as connecting, queries, table manipulation (It avoid all the CRUD operations) and provide Object oriented Database modelling with the help of Propel.
    5. A web developer can delegate his work more efficiently among programmers, DB designer and the web page designers without affecting the logical part of programming.
    6. Fast Development
     
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    I still see nothing that a good programmer who thinks out his code benefits from. I can write code just as fast and often times easier in php than any frameworks I've seen.
     
    projectshifter, May 26, 2007 IP
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    Hello,
    I found codeignitor pretty good and easy to code with.

    ~
    Thomas
     
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  9. fedarik

    fedarik Well-Known Member

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    The programmer experiences are very relative .... For my last portal i could save two months time. Try out symfony you will become addicted. :)
     
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    I'll look into it, but I've been coding for years and every templating system I've used is way more hassle than it's worth. I haven't had a project take more than a week's worth of code in years, plus php itself is easier to find someone later on down the road to edit it if need be. Every time a client brings me a site with Smarty to edit I cringe.
     
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    fedarik Well-Known Member

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    I am agreeing with you in some of your points. But as i said earlier, experiences are relative.

    Any way i visited your sites ... nice work keep going

    You can buzz me for any symfony related help.
     
    fedarik, May 26, 2007 IP
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    I use Codeigniter and I'm very satisfied with it. Wit hthe built in helpers and libraries I managed to expand my site 3 times faster than with usual php prgramming which was forcing me to constantly look for classes, functions (or create them) and also try updating things from time to time. Right now I just install the updates and I'm ready to go concentrating on new ideas and content.
     
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