I notice that you ignored my question: where did Cain and Abel's wives come from? OK, let's see if I've got this right: 1. God makes Adam. 2. God makes Eve. 3. God kicks them out of the Garden of Eden. 4. Eve gives birth to two sons (that we know of.) So where are the girls coming from if there are no other people outside of Eden? Careful examination of the Bible only leaves one literal possibility and it's incest. Either you believe Adam and Eve's offspring were having incest or that there were other humans living outside of Eden. I don't see any other choices, do you?
vs. Do you really have to be told everything or could you find it in yourself to assume (despite being told explicitly contrary to your claim) that Adam and Eve maybe, just maybe had more kids in the 800 or so years they lived. Evolution also requires incest. And sex with monkies. So your indignation is hilarious. At least in the Bible's version of events humans were at least having sex with humans. Not sex with "nearly humans." But with a large number of children being had it would only take a few generations before you'd be able to hook up with a second cousin. And pretty soon you'd be marrying far distant relatives. Incest only breeds biologically stunted individuals after several dedicated generations of incest and that's in modern society where our DNA is already screwed up. When your DNA is near perfect, incest isn't an issue. To you. Seeing the quality of "objections" in this thread that doesn't say much.
Why are you asking me if I need to be told everything when you will only accept it if it's been written down in one version of a book? You're the one that won't weigh an alternative theory about who married the sons of Adam, instead you quote verse and scripture from one version of the Bible as proof of your claims. You do know that there are many translations of the Bible, correct? And in some they do mention other people living outside of Eden. Some even say that Eve was the second wive of Adam and that the first was Lilith. Why is it so far fetched to consider that there might have been other people living outside of Eden when you will assume that Adam and Eve had to have near perfect DNA so incest wouldn't be an issue to their bloodline? How do you explain the different fossils of man that scientists have found? My belief is that the story in the Bible is by men and thus open to interpretation and even accidental error. The Bible is fill of many passages that contradict each other and if you took it literally it would be impossible to follow.
What different fossils of man? You can go around the world and see the variety of skulls that various people have. Or were you refering to the monkey skulls that scientists assume were pre-human humans? Are you insinuating that Adam and Eve's children married monkies? Fascinating theory...
How about Neanderthal Man? No, what I'm suggesting is that there were other humans living outside the Garden of Eden, not monkeys. Adam and Eve and all of their descendants would still have the sin of knowledge. There is nothing to refute that possibility and it makes more sense than the sons copulating with the daughters, your perfect DNA theory, the reason why there was a mark placed on Cain and so on.
People yewhewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. I will say this again. The book of genisis was not written to be read literally but conceptionally. The earth was created billions of years ago and not 6500 years ago . There is not one logical person on earth that has disproved carbon dating yet and i doubt there ever will be.
I never said the earth was created 6500 years ago. I said "humans" were created 6500 years ago. Hence, answering the OP's question according to the Bible. To Chant, You said: "OK, let's see if I've got this right: 1. God makes Adam. 2. God makes Eve. 3. God kicks them out of the Garden of Eden. 4. Eve gives birth to two sons (that we know of.) So where are the girls coming from if there are no other people outside of Eden? Careful examination of the Bible only leaves one literal possibility and it's incest. Either you believe Adam and Eve's offspring were having incest or that there were other humans living outside of Eden. I don't see any other choices, do you?" KalvinB hit the nail right on the head. Adam and Eve continued to produce offspring for hundreds of years. We don't know exactly how many and when. Obviously they would have had to have female and male offspring. Some of the females or some of the females offsrpring, Cain and Abel would have taken as wives. Of course it's not incest as far as the law goes because they only did what God allowed to do. Which meant what we know as incest is today. That law preventing relatives to have sex with each other came later via Moses which was handed down from God. These things are all found in the Bible. It takes a bit of careful research and analysis to find out the chronology of these things. By the way. Re: "I notice that you ignored my question: where did Cain and Abel's wives come from?" I did answer your question just now. Not ignoring you at all. Snappy comeback Col
If you are referring to "records" stating there were humans, apes, monkeys, Neanderthals etc.. prior to Adam and Eve then I would have to say this is not a Bible teaching. I understand many people say that their have been Neanderthals, troglodytes, etc.. from bones, fossils and the likes. Many people philosophy that these findings date them from thousands if not millions of years ago. Many scientists believe this to be so. This is not the sort of thing to get into in a web forum due to lack of factual resources online. However, what I can say is, there is no evidence from the Bible that say man existed before Adam and Eve were created. In other words. There is not point in continuing to debate this specific point due to giving respect to the OP's question. Col
Science is wrong about a great many things. There's no reason to believe that God created a perfect place with two perfect people and then also created imperfect people outside the garden. Why would God create imperfect people or put perfect people outside the perfect place? The whole mental gymnastics is purely a pursuit of avoiding incest. And it just creates absurdities. Incest can't be avoided with evolution either. CEO is correct in that incest was not morally wrong until it became unnecessary. God wanted people to marry outside familes in order to spread and diversify. When you have a very small population incest is necessary.
To Kalvin and Cheap SEO: thanks for your replies. While I don't agree with your views but I do respect your right to believe your interpretation of the Bible story. When there's no way to prove either case I believe that there is nothing wrong in believing what you want to.
Adam was born February 9th 4867 BC and Eve was born August 23rd 4862 BC. I thought everybody knew that???
for anyone who doesn't think Adam & Eve are real the Bible does have a geneology all the way up to Jesus. Who was historically real. Its found in Luke chap. 3:23
There's only a select few that could actually put an absolute date on their "creation". I ain't talking about humans when referring to those select few either. Because it was not recorded we can only estimate the time going by what Moses wrote as inspired by God (according to the Bible of course). Col