Israel - belongs to Jews? your opinion.

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Lemon116, May 21, 2007.

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Do you think about Israel...

Poll closed Jul 20, 2007.
  1. I fully understand and support Israel

    46.4%
  2. I understand Israel but I dont support its acts

    23.7%
  3. I do not like Israel

    18.6%
  4. I do not like Israel and Jews

    11.3%
  1. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    #221
    lol that was a good one
     
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  2. Toopac

    Toopac Peon

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    #222
    N_F_S, I'll tell you why you think i'm not an atheist, since you refuse to flatly answer the question put to you.

    You are a muslim & believe for me to be against muslims as you percieve me to be, that i must be a christian.

    Now can you just stop being a closet muslim:(
     
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  3. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #223
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  4. N_F_S

    N_F_S Active Member

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    #224
    hmm, I will have to repeat then...:

     
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  5. N_F_S

    N_F_S Active Member

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    #225
    bed time, night all.
     
    N_F_S, May 22, 2007 IP
  6. Toopac

    Toopac Peon

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    #226
    Stating facts is not attention to god.

    Is it really that late in Afghanistan? night anyway;)
     
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  7. debunked

    debunked Prominent Member

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    #227
    Jesus said that people would hate His followers.

    You tell me, why do you hate Christians?
     
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  8. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #228
    Probably has something to do with the fact that Christians like Jews. :D
     
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  9. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #229
    May be he knew that one day, you and your friends will claim to be his followers. :rolleyes:
     
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  10. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #230
    But love your enemies, and do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return, and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, for he is kind to the ungrateful and the evil. Be merciful, even as your Father is merciful. (Luke 6:35-36, ESV)

    Just got this in my blog, which changes the verses every day. I love this verse, but must admit that it is hard sometime to follow that.
    In islam, is there anything like that? As far as I have researched, NO.
     
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  11. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #231
    gworld certainly fulfills that prophecy and then some. Never a bad word for his buds though.
     
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  12. Lemon116

    Lemon116 Active Member

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    #232
    The jews were always - ALWAYS living in palestine.
    Palestine was chosen because of the importance of Jerusalem to the Jews, the right was given by the UN, isnt it fair enough? And you country as well voted for the desicion so blame your own country.
    No, but loosing wars wouldnt as well.
    No and again no, where did you take this info? from an anti-Jewish book ? :eek:
     
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  13. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #233
    But I always have bad words for people like you who are anti-American and pro-terrorist and hate democracy. You are a traitor to all the values that America stands for. ;)

    Gtech is pro-terrorist

    Gtech- The anti-American, pro-terrorist

    You should be ashamed of yourself for betraying your country and giving aid and comfort to terrorists. :mad:
     
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  14. zangief

    zangief Well-Known Member

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    #234
    - Were they living in peace together (let me say old times) , why not in the modern times ? Is not this possible , blaming others is easy on both sides but comes to no solution.
    Did you ever watched the movie "Paradise Now" , both sides has hard parts.
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0445620/

    -The same UN has decisions about Israel goverment but when it comes to that those are bad.If we take them as peacemakers we should obey them all.
    I don't blame my country cause we want peace for everybody and we are trying to be same distance to everyone (Although it is hard cause most of us are muslims - but as I always say religion is not the cause of the problem , every religion orders good otherwise they would not accepted by the masses but the conflicts of interests is the problem).
    -Same Jerusalem is important for all three religions , does this give them the right to take it ,too ?
    - Yes that's true winning and losing has nothing to do with being right.
    - Not a book but I generally come to things like this , I wanted to learn honestly , and also Israel goverments decisions about demolishing the family homes of Palestine suicide bombers make me think about it.Cause one can not be blamed for others mistakes.

    thanks

     
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  15. Lemon116

    Lemon116 Active Member

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    #235
    One mistake m8, the family of the suicider know and bless their son to go and suicide for gihad, demolishing the family homes is made so the other familys do not incorage their son to suicide.

    And between you and me, the family of the suicider gets 30,000$ from Iran and in that money they can build 3 houses, so there is no other solution :confused:
    Take it ? you can try, but Jerusalem is free for everyone to visit, come and visit youll enjoy it!:) the drinks on me.

    And the movie, heared about it but never got the chance to look, its an arab producer movie, right ?
    But I dont need to watch movies because I live them.
     
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  16. N_F_S

    N_F_S Active Member

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    #236
    Ive never said I hate christians, Im trying to say that christians are NOT better than muslims. And that you should not mix extremists with muslims as well as fascists with christians.
     
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  17. zangief

    zangief Well-Known Member

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    #237
    - Imo this won't stop them cause I don't like it but in middle east there is a resistance culture if someone hits you you hit him and this goes on.I know it is hard but there should be a solution.I feel sorry about the people of two sides.

    - Of course I don't want to take it :) , but you know once the Ottoman Empire was ruling those lands , time is interesting one is strong sometimes and goes weak sometimes.If we don't build a peacefull world , people will continue to kill each other , all the time.Thanks for the offer by the way maybe sometime I'll visit Jerusalem , maybe everything settles a little bit more.

    -I liked the movie yes it is an Arab producer but I found it fair they try to show things from the view of Palestinians.As I said every one has hard parts.I looked for a quote by John Steinback about when you go deeper to the war the reality goes more blurry.

    peace on you.


     
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  18. Lemon116

    Lemon116 Active Member

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    #238
    As soon as the palestinians are ready to talk we will talk, but they dont even recognize Israel so how can you talk with someone who cant actually see you? ;)
     
    Lemon116, May 23, 2007 IP
  19. maldives

    maldives Prominent Member

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    #239
    You have not answered my questions yet. What do you think you want to achive by posting my name in the thread opening post?? and What do you want me to explain to you? or Do I even have to explain anything to you? who are you asking for an explanation from me?

    You are just so funny.
     
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  20. Lemon116

    Lemon116 Active Member

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    #240
    Thx :D
    ;)
    I want you 2join the desccusion
     
    Lemon116, May 23, 2007 IP