Ok, I though that the discussion was more like if the jews morally own the land, not if it owns the land just by military power. This is beside the discussion, but from what you are saying you obviously think that anybody that has enough military power are entitled to what they can take ?
are you pretty much just limited to name calling now mia? we were kind of dicussing the history of israel etc, please try to stay on topic
The facts are that the jews got the land from the UN - a high authority which represents the democratic world .(point) I am more than sure that the UN disscussed and argued about this metter long time but at the end it came to an important decision - An israeli state on the land of britain - thats right palestine was british b4. Anything happened before this desucin is written in the history books - arabs in palestine atack jew citizens (1921,1929,1936-1939), before WW1 a full peace beetwin jews and arabs.
I've not called you any names. You've called several people names in this thread, including myself.. Things like "strawman" come to memory.. I could dig a little more, but why be trite? We are discussing opinions about whether Israel belongs to Jews. I think you know my position. On that topic, we are even discussing those who hate them and despise them. You happen to have wandered into this thread and have once again described your devout hatred, disdain, distaste, loathing, and racist/anti-semitic feelings on the topic. So taking you to task on the subject, is quite to the contrary, on topic.
lol, you think I called you a strawman strawman is a type of fallacy, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man dumbass ( that would be an ad hominem, sort of) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
Hey? Are you saying if you read the quran it absolves muslims of their killing, tells you muslims don't kill or do you mean if you read the quran you can't kill?
His response doesn't sound like the response of a *supposed* atheist, does it? His al taqiyya is getting weaker and weaker
You forgot to mention over 100 UN resolutions that condemn Israel for different actions. How is it that UN is good when it approved the state of Israel but it is irrelevant when it tries to stop Israel government aggressions?
will say once more, if all muslims were killing and reading them extremists books, that YOU call religion, there would be a 3rd world war. if you read the quran, you will not call extremists - muslims. Was that was so hard to understand? I personally didn't read it, but I know it much differ from extremists actions, otherwise it would not exist so many years. Hitlet was christian, so I shall call all chrisitians now fascists.
I agree,if you know a little bit of history you know the truth.and jews know it to!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Where were the Jews living before that date ? , Who was living in Ä°srael (Palastine) before that date ? Why was palestine chosen ? Who gave this right to you ? - From where I live it seems like another theological state do you agree with me ? - Does winning wars make you right everytime ? - Is it true that Jews believe that they are chosen and see others as people that can be used. I honestly want to have answers for these , I am from Turkey and a Muslim but religion is not a priority in this world.As you know Ottoman empire welcomed the jews escaping from spain 500 years before.But I want learn these questions. All we see from here is people killing people and Ä°srail army bombing peoples houses , for example a palestine deputies whole family died in a recent attack. Do you find this right ? Killing civilians cause from your view they may be named as terorists but for them they are fighting for their homeland.
You never read the Quaran, yet you propose to know what it teaches? Extremism comes form the Quaran. Here we go off into the never ending abyss again with the Hitler vs. Christianity thing again... I need my Fryman fix and that "not this shit again pic"....
haha, I knew you wouldnt agree that Hitler came from Christianity. I just follow the logic, if quran was saying what extremists do now it would not exist till now. Plus their would not WRITE books or whatever stuff. Can you rewrite a religion ?