Free Yahoo Inclusion...

i didn't see this earlier, so thanks for the heads up!

 

thanks a TON, i was not aware of this!

hasit

 

Thanks for the reminder -- I hadn't heard this was going away.

 

With the direction that Yahoo seems to be taking I don't know that a free listing in their database will do much good. Seems like they (Yahoo) is determined that every listing (at least the first few hundred results) is a paid listing. For some odd reason though, I've been getting more than normal traffic from Yahoo - just started over the last couple days. I usually get next to nothing from them.

Have you searched on Yahoo recently? Paid listings everywhere. I can't say that I like the layout...at all.

 

lol, had to register at Yahoo to get to the submission page, well at least i have now a @yahoo email adress!

 

Seems like they (Yahoo) is determined that every listing (at least the first few hundred results) is a paid listing.

Hmm. Well, I took a look at Yahoo yesterday for the first time. I run an amateur niche site that Google once had as high as #31 for what I consider my critical keywords, but which has--despite mildly successful ongoing efforts at link acquisition and fine-tuning to be more SE-friendly--been pushed back, by today, to #61.

Yahoo? I'm #16, on their first page, under those keywords.

 

Check Yahoo again in a week or so and let us know where that 16 ranking is. I'm curious, as I saw a quick jump in Yahoo SERPS followed by an equally quick decline right back out of them. I've been seeing the same thing in MSN.

 

Hustling for business I guess, Hehe

 

Well, two or three days ago is when I first-ever checked Yahoo, and I was #18. Yesterday, I went from #18 to #16 between two searches perhaps 10 minutes apart. Today I'm #18 again. So it seems, at least over half a week, to be holding fairly steady.

(As a matter of curious interest: I noticed that one listing above mine is a very, very obvious search-engine spam, which I have reported.)

 

There is no ranking advantage to being in Yahoo's PFI service. It merely guarantees you a new crawl every 48 hours and allows you to submit dynamic pages that are hard to get indexed. It also guarantees your inclusion in 72 hours or whatever it is. It makes sense for some businesses that have the budget to participate and who have high conversion rates. For most people, the free submission is the way to go.

Keep in mind also that if you are a Inktomi subscriber, your pages are only guaranteed in Yahoo's index until April 15th.

 

I am glad to have attained the rank of Peon! LOL

 

What a way to go!

 

while having far less traffic from yahoo

that statement:
"...... Seems like they (Yahoo) is determined that every listing (at least the first few hundred results) is a paid listing ..."

Appears NOT at all to be valid for me ..
i get plenty of top rankings among top 20 or very top few - for various keywords.
the only main difference is that Yahoo is far behind with its crawling - hence quiet a bit out of date.
far behind means many months or even years ..

i always and ever used free Yahoo listing - form the time before they started to charge - and always have been crawled by Yahoo ever since they have crawler. The current free AddUrl actually is of little use because their crawler is on site almost daily anyway.

i guess thats valid for all those sites who have lots of content as well.

 

My point wasn't that as of today you can't be in Yahoo unless you pay. I was commenting more on the fact that their serp pages are dominated by paid ads - even more so than they were just a few months back.

Top, bottom, left, right...oh wait - there's a free listing in a Yahoo serp. It's in a 2pt font squeezed in between 100 paid listings

 

Or at least that's my opinion

I believe that Google is messing around too much with its algo under the guise that they are getting it just right - but to me its throwing some wild results.

Dancing it may be, but at the moment its very much like a bull dancing in a china shop and the relevancy is way off track - its as though they are working out a way to beat SEO rather than keeping concentrating on relevancy which is where Yahoo is

Like you my results in Yahoo are much better than Google [like we used to be at Google] and more stable - they stay where they get to - which is better for me as I don't fret over the positions.

 

You certainly don't need to pay for a listing with Yahoo - it's erally for sites/pages that have no visibility and want it. For those sites well SEO'd for their respective keywords, no submission is required.