Well, dont Xpect me to tell you my opinion because Im a Jew living in Israel. So I am more worried about YOUR opinion and what do YOU think about it. So here are a few quick facts: *The State of Israel was created in 1948. *Israel is the only country in the Middle East considered to be a liberal democracy. *Israel have won 7/7 wars (in a period of 59years). *One of Israels famous wars was the 6-day-war (1967) in which Israel won several Islamic armys in 6days. Or better watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5tDDkvXSI8 Tell me your opinion/questions and I will be here to answer. Edit: Special call for mr maldives who I invite to come and share why he doesnt like Israel.
Well I think all of the fighting over there and suicide bombs etc are just plain stupid and wonder why everyone who lives there can't just all live there? Does it really have to have an "owner"?
Thanks Rhonda, It doesnt, the simple fact is That the Palastinian terrorist groups dont recognize the state of Israel and they fight with terror against its and the whole Jews. I myself do not consider the whole arabs as terrorists, in fact I live in Jerusalem next to an arab village- This are Israeli-Arabs which got Israeli passports and are considered as Israeli citizens. The other "Bad" arabs cant live peacfully and you see the result yourself. Another COOL video: A must watch! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlvxWGUEr6c
Thanks for this thread lemon...but I bet not many of the people in the P&R section will be in here, especially AGS, gworld, ferret, and their other friends.
Damn, And I was expecting a Fight! lol Edit: Maybe I can boost up this threads traffic by placing it in your sigg? Kiddin.
I dont agree with the options. I dont care about the jews or Israel. But I hate palestinians. i wish all of them died. Israel and jews, I couldnt care less.
Well, well -an option I didnt think about, but still this 2 things -Israel and Palestinians are connected 2gether and One can form opinion on other.
so you are in the "I don't like jews, but I don't hate them either" camp....sometimes thats not a bad place to be.
You know that British occupied palestein and ruled over the Arabs there , giving them no representation in the government They then took and divided up the Arab land and gave to to Jews, without really consulting the present owners of the land When I was younger I thought Israel is way cool and tough, because they win wars etc Then I read more about how that country was formed, the fighting and terrorizing on both sides that happened during its creation I pretty much think both sides are assholes, and I don't see why the US has to be involved in their BS fighting Also they won most of those war because we helped them with planes or satellite information
Israel belongs to the jews. You have a lot of supporters in the US and always will! There was a post made by lorien1973 that deserves reposting: 1. Are you aware that the Disputed Territories never belonged to the “Palestinians†and only came into Israeli possession as a result of the 1967 six day war in which Egypt, Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon all massed forces at Israel’s border in order to “push the Jews into the seaâ€. The Arabs lost and Israel took control of the land. Do you agree that if the Koranimals don’t want to lose territory to Israel, then they shouldn’t start wars? Do you agree that there is justice that Israel, who as far back as 1948 has always sought peace with her far larger neighbors, should live in prosperity - making the desert bloom - while the residents of 19 adjacent Arab countries who are blessed with far more land as well as oil wealth live in their own feces? 2. Did you know that the “Palestinians†could have had their own country as far back as 1948 had they accepted the UN sponsored partition plan which gave Israel AND the Palestinians a countries of their own on land which Jews had lived on for thousands of years before Mohammed ever had a wet dream about virgins? The Arabs rejected the UN offer and went to war with the infant Israeli nation. The Arabs lost and have been whining about it ever since. Do you agree this is like a murderer who kills his parents and asks for special treatment since he is now an orphan? 3. Can you tell us ANY Arab country which offers Jews the right to be citizens, vote, own property, businesses, be a part of the government or have ANY of the rights which Israeli Arabs enjoy? Any Arab country which gives those rights to Christians? How about to other Arabs? Wouldn’t you just LOVE to be a citizen of Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Iran, or Syria? 4. Since as many Jews (approximately 850,000) were kicked out of Arab countries as were Arabs who left present day Israel (despite being literally begged to stay), why should Arabs be permitted to return to Israel if Jews aren’t allowed to set foot in Arab countries? Can you explain why Arabs can worship freely in Israel but Jews would certainly be hung from street lamps after having their intestines devoured by an Arab mob if they so much as entered an Arab country? 5. Israel resettled and absorbed all of the Jews from Arab countries who wished to become Israelis. Why haven’t any Arab countries offered to resettle Arabs who were displaced from Israel, leaving them to rot for 60 years in squalid refugee camps? And why are those refugee camps still there? Could it be that the billions of dollars that the UNWRA has sent there goes to terrorist groups like Hamas, Islamic Jihad, El Aqsa Martyrs Brigade, or Hezbollah? How did Yassir Arafat achieve his $300 million in wealth? Why aren’t these funds distributed for humanitarian use? 6. Did you know that the Arabs in the disputed territories (conquered by Israel in the 1967 war which was started by Arabs) and who are not Israelis already have two countries right now? And that they are called Egypt and Jordan? 7. If your complaint is about the security fence which Israel is finally building in the Disputed Territories, are you aware that it is built solely to keep the “brave†Arab terrorists out so that they can no longer self detonate on busses, in dining halls or pizzerias and kill Jewish grandmothers and schoolchildren? Why are the Arabs so brave when they target unarmed civilians but even when they outnumber their opponents they get their sandy asses kicked all the way to Mecca when they are faced with Jewish soldiers? Why do Arab soldiers make the French look like super heroes? 8. Please explain why you are so concerned about Arabs, who possess 99% of the land in this region and are in control of the world’s greatest natural resource, which literally flows out of the ground? Can’t their brother muslims offer some of the surplus land and nature’s riches to the “Palestiniansâ€? Or is it true that Arabs are willing to die right down to the last “Palestinianâ€? 9. Why do you not exhibit the same level of concern for say, people in Saudi Arabia who are beheaded, subject to amputation, stoning, honor killing etc.? What about women who are denied any semblance of basic civil rights, including the right not to be treated as property for the entertainment and abuse of her father, brothers, or husbands? What about the Muslims in Sudan and Egypt who are still enslaved, or the women there whose genitalia are barbarically cut off? How about the oppression of Shiites by Sunnis, the gassing of the Kurds by Iraq, or the massacre of “Palestinians†by Jordan (Black September)? Why doesn’t this concern you? 10. Did you ever stop to wonder how much better off everyone in the region would be if Arabs stopped trying to kill Jews and destroy Israel? What would happen if the Israelis gave up their weapons and disarmed? Would they live to see the next day? But what would happen if the Arabs completely disarmed? You know the answer: They would all be AT PEACE! And if there is no war to rile them up, the Arabs would be forced to look at their own repressive, pre-medieval societies. Why would they want to do that when there are Jews to kill? 11. Have you heard “People who define themselves primarily by what they hate, rather than who they love, are doomed to failure and miseryâ€? Can you see the parallels to the Arabs, who are blessed with land and oil, but still gladly train their children to kill themselves in order to kill Jews? Have you heard Golda Meir’s words to the effect of “There will be peace when the Arabs love their children more than they hate oursâ€? Why do the Arabs hate so much? Read it here
I think both the israelis and the palestinians have some strong arguments for owning that land so I think the only viable option is to find a way to get along and live together
the problem is this will never happen as long as organizations such as hamas and hezbollah are around.
No land belongs to anyone... If Israel belongs to the Jew's then Sri Lanka belongs to the Tamil's and South Africa belongs to the British. Everyone has their rights to live anywhere and nobody can say stuff like "LMFAO Lala Land belongs to the Lala's". Im not against jew's or the israeli cause or actually dont know that much to comment upon it, but im just sharing my 2 cents...
If I have seen this thing copy and pasted a couple times now and many of the things listed in it have little to do with the issue in israel let me break it down a bit You can talk about how much other middle east countries suck but it doesn't change the fact the british bascially stole the arab land and gave it to the jews the un partion divided the country in half , whereas before that partion the arabs owned like 95% of the country Why would it be reasonabel to just give up half you land? thats great that arabs countries suck and all but yet again how does that give jewish people more right to the land if my neighbor keeps his yard messy, does that mean I can take it from him? yet again what does this have to do with the land dispute? because people arabs inlcuded tend to be currupt peices of shit but yet again how does this give israel the right to take land? but yet again how does this give israel the right to take land? but yet again how does this give israel the right to take land? why israels brave when the bomb targets from the air? because arabs as whole don't really give a shit about the palsetians but yet again how does this give israel the right to take land? but yet again how does this give israel the right to take land? but yet again how does this give israel the right to take land? I don't know , but yet again how does this give israel the right to take land?
About the british thingie I know - Ive just had a test 2 days ago about that material, Israel in 1882-1936. I tell you one thing - "Wikipedia" (search-Israel) "...Immediately following the adoption of the Partition Plan by the UN General Assembly on November 29, 1947, David Ben-Gurion tentatively accepted the partition, while the Arab League rejected it. The Arab Higher Committee immediately ordered a violent three-day strike on Jewish civilians, attacking buildings, shops, and neighborhoods, and prompting insurgency organized..." So everything was legel, the arabs began the fight against the UN partition... The UN - not only BritishThe UN represents the whole democratic world. Now lets start from the end. I must agree that without the us help the Israeli would of been hard to win the wars. The US support for Israel is something everyone can understand : US sees Israel from a strategic point of view, Israel is the like the american troops in Iraq - protecting the world/middle east from terror-growth. Each country was was formed after fightings - (the american civil war) and Israel is no exeption.
Well said and agreed but you can not say that the Land/borders of the Israeli state belongs to X as you cant say that there is a country which is wide open for every1. Sry if I got your Idea wrong.