Who is losing the war on Iraq?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by mahmood, May 18, 2007.

  1. #1
    Do you know why everybody is talking about "US losing the war on Iraq"? Because nobody cares about the poor.:( It is only the rich that is improtant.

    The real losers of this war are the Iraqies - if there is a loser -. Have you ever heard somebody mention it?

    For US the worst case is to pull out of Iraq and let Iraq to be devided - or whatever - but what is the worst for Iraqies? They will lose an excellent chance for democracy and living in peace. Acutally the whole middle east is losing the chance for a quick democracy and millions have to wait for the graduate democracy which may come years after their departure.

    The same goes for Vietnam. Has anybody ever mentioned that the main losers of the war was Vietnamies and not US? You just compare Vietnam with the other western style countries around it to see for yourself. Now after years of stubernity they have realized that being communist wouldn't help them and they have to lag behind Singapour, Taivan, Malesia, even India and many others.

    I don't say US won, it is arguable though, I say the poor are not just counted. If in an accident 2 people lose their life would we be talking about the third whose nose is bleeding? Well the answer would be "depents who the third one is."
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  2. MattUK

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    Everybody's losing at the moment, the only people gaining anything are Iran and the arms dealers.
     
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    The Iranian people are loosing to, this has expanded the regime dictators influence and power...

    I belive that aliens will invade us soon. And when they do... We will unite.
     
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  4. mahmood

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    Thank you. I couldn't agree more.
     
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    Are you a Scientologist?
     
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    no. do they belive that?
     
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  7. MattUK

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    They believe anything they're told ;)
    Mostly do to with aliens, radiation, volcanos and a fair bit of science fiction.
     
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    RovingCalypso Well-Known Member

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    #8
    The US is gaining in Iraq. Halliburton is an American company. The Iraqis are loosing in Iraq.
     
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    #9
    There's a war on Iraq? Where?

    Now as for the War Against Terrorism... we are winning. Al Qaeda has been dispersed and unable to successfully organize and carry out any real attacks. The Taliban has also been quelled for now, not to mention Jihad and Syrian terrorists. Local geurilla militant groups are our focus in stopping now.

    But this war won't ever end; you realize that, right? It's similar to the cold war, in the sense that communism will always be an enemy to the American way. Terrorism, though, is a global threat and since it's NOT an official state that we are fighting (instead, we're fighting organizations), which is why "winning" the war does not mean the war is over in this case. Get used to it.

    Times are changing...
     
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    The ants are losing, they keep cleaning up the bodies and taking away the food from the ants. Besides the fact that their military strength is not up to par with the U.S. or Iraqi insurgency forces. Poor ants.

    I'm sure at least one of you will get this.
     
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  11. mahmood

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    Absolutely.
    Adding that about 300000 thousands Iraqi troops are voluntarily killing taliban supporters - and each other -. Muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan dont need any propaganda to hate taliban. A taliban gurilla is far more luckier to be killed in his suside attack or be captured by the American than being captured by the Iraqi people in the street because they would tear him apart with their teeth and don't have any worry of human right critisizm.
     
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    Don't be too confident mate. Because Al Qaeda is a CIA creation they will be used as and when necessary to further more misery via other false flag operations.
     
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    You just keep repeating and don't listen or answer. I asked you once somewhere else and ask you here.

    Do you really believe that Bin Ladan takes order form CIA? Do you believe that CIA orders Bin Ladan to kill US soldiers in Iraq?

    How about UK? Doesn't UK have a share in this control? Probably you believe that Bush managed to misguide Blair and poor Blair went to war without knowing that all is a trap put by CIA. Or what about this: Bush and Blair both control Bin Ladan and whenever they want they order him to blow another skyscraper.

    Or another one of the theories that people like you in dispare have come up with: Both Bush and Blair only take orders from CIA and only say what they are said to say.

    The power that people like you assume for CIA is far grater than the power that muslims are beliving for God.

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    Doh. :confused:

    Bin Laden was an al-CIAda creation mate.

    He is better known as a patsy for the false flag on 9/11.
     
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    You are still getting round the question.
    I didn't ask if Bin Ladan "WAS" a creation of CIA, it is a long story. We needed people like Bin Ladan to stop mad-communism and we won. Thanks to CIA for such incredible achivement - assuming that you are right and CIA was so clever to do that -. Who could imaging the collapse of mass exploit of workers in giant USSR? - Well everybody say "I did" now, unfortunately there is no tax for telling lies -
    You said:
    My quesion is: Do you really believe that CIA sends a message to Bin-Ladan's mobile phone and says: Hey Beni, we need a "false flag operation", why don't you kill three more US soldiers in Iraq today?

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    #16
    mahmood your wasting you time, you stand as much chance of getting AGS back to earth as a lost satellite:p
     
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    At the moment, thousands of local innocent people are paying with their lives. US companies are getting billion dollars worth of contracts for reconstruction. We know US will eventually get out of Iraq honorably or just ran away like what they did in Vietnam and Somalia.
     
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  18. mahmood

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    Other countries can do the same. Iraq is not closed. Actually the democratically elected government of Iraq is begging other countries to go there and invest but nobody goes.

    The most shame is on islamic countries, they not only don't do any construction there but help the terrorists to blow out other muslims. - I dont know if I should laugh or cry. -

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    Are you really surprised by that? The only industry that seems to be thriving out there is the close protection industry ;)
     
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    I think the one that really loses the war in Iraq is the people itself. Why? They were the one who suffer from that unnecessary war, the ex president of IRAQ is already dead.. so what is the sense of fighting? Why just they don't start a new. Others would say that they wanted freedom, but what kind of freedom are they seeking?
     
    cryxellis, May 21, 2007 IP