What most of you obviously don't understand :

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  1. KalvinB

    KalvinB Peon

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    #61
    Educate yourself:

    http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/mischedj/ca_hitler.html

    Now that you are educated feel free to ignore Hitler's own words and still go on ignorantly about how Hitler was a Christian.

    Like I said, Hitler was no doubt a Christian at one point in his life. He then tossed it aside when it no longer suited him. Those quotes are from 1941.

    Atheists have murdered more people than anyone. Mostly in the name of getting rid of religion or at least forcing religion to conform to government.

    The bolded quote summarizes the view of religion held by communists, socialists and atheists: religion is fine so long as it doesn't go against us. Even on this forum Christians are no more attacked than when they dare question the god of Atheism: science.

    http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/mathew/sn-hitler.html


     
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  2. MattUK

    MattUK Notable Member

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    #62
    You keep telling yourself that sweetheart ;)
     
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  3. debunked

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    #63
    Another history denier. I suppose the holocaust never happened either....
     
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  4. N_F_S

    N_F_S Active Member

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    #64
    Hello ? Hello ?

    WHO CARES WHAT THEY SHOUT WHEN THEY KILL PEOPLE??
     
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    debunked Prominent Member

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    #65
    Well, for one, is the person doing what they are told to do by their book? Two, do they claim to do it by the book? Three, do they mimic what their prophet or religious teacher showed by example?

    Let me know if you need the basic help at answering those basic questions.
     
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  6. N_F_S

    N_F_S Active Member

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    #66
    And the people who fought them were MUSLIMS, I know that, as I'm living in a few hours drive from that place as well as we were defending our town on 13th October 2005 from these idiots, by the way many of them were from arabic countries.

    It's funny, how all you saying muslims are Sh*t, Christians are the best, you are all Hitlers my friends.
     
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  7. N_F_S

    N_F_S Active Member

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    #67
    Again, you are not getting me, what is more important?

    1) Terrorist killed ** people and said it was for the his god or whatsoever

    2) Terrorist killed ** people and said it was for the his MUM or whatsoever

    I equal both, what important is, that he killed ** people.
     
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  8. N_F_S

    N_F_S Active Member

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    #68
    Funny, I forgot about Hitler. Ok.

    Here is our Hitler, that is the same person as a nowadays terrorist and I could WITH a BIG SUCCESS push it to the mass (especially in islam countries) that Hitler is a true Christian terrorist. Just as US pushing the same about muslims in they chriistian country. Right ?
     
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  9. KalvinB

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    #69
    Hitler was a Christian terrorist?

    Do you not read?
     
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  10. debunked

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    #70
    No body is arguing that they are equally murdered.

    Back to your list above:
    1) 1000's of terrorists kill 1,000,000's of people by following a book that says it is ok
    2) 5 murderers killing 20 people because they are nuts.

    Unless you can prove otherwise.

    But by seeing the root you can do something about the problem.
    If drinking lots of alcohol destroys the liver, do we ignore the alcohol and just say that people are dying of bad livers? - oh they must have a bad liver, nothing we could have done...
     
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  11. N_F_S

    N_F_S Active Member

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    #71
    I think you don't as I said word "could".

    As to the Hitler, I am not sure who he was, I dont believe crap that is written and is always written differently, especially in things like: what was in his soul.
     
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  12. N_F_S

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    #72
    the book was written by a terrorist, not a god (haha, god cant write...sorry:)). I agree about the root, but it's just as any other root in any other murder.

    well, they kill people in their own countries, let them kill all, does it touch you anyhow?? I dont think I will be ever in Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, etc. etc., let them sort their own problems. I'd rather spend all that money that US spends in Iraq on own country's safety.

    WTC is an exception.
     
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    #73
    Only in your opinion, I don't blame you for trying to disown him though, I woul if I was trying to prove the point you're trying to make ;)
     
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  14. KalvinB

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    #74
    So those quotes are my opinion that Hitler said all kinds of anti-Christian things?

    Even infidels.org knows that Hitler was not a Christian. The page I got the quotes from also mentions that the white supremecist site that he got Mein Kampf from also pointed out that Hitler was not a Christian.

    You're a special kind of person. A true unbeliever. One who won't let facts get in the way of your convictions.

    Was Stalin a Christian? Was Pol Pot a Christian?

    Here's a clue by four: no. They were atheist (or agnostic) and anti-religion and they murdered millions to get rid of religion.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Orthodox_Church

    But hey, facts are just opinions to you.
     
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    #75
    OK, matt if he was a christian, explain how?
     
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  16. N_F_S

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  17. KalvinB

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    #77
    And that changes the fact that he rejected Christianity before going on a murderous rampage how?

    Is Baptism magical that it forces all who have it to be Christians for life?
     
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  18. N_F_S

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    #78
    nope, that makes him equal to bin laden and others, who I don't think are muslims, they went their own way too.
     
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    #79
    You are impossible to teach or you are refusing to accept facts. laden follows his teachings from his book. It is his religious values that give him the green light on killing infidels and even if hitler was a christian, and IF he embraced the Bible's teachings he would not have done what he did.

    Do you see the difference yet?
     
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  20. N_F_S

    N_F_S Active Member

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    #80
    CORRECT, from his book, if I write a book , and call it muslims are the best, kill everyone else, would that make all muslims as me? I agree, there are people who fell for this sh*t, and it's all very well done, all the teachings, but hey, that's not 1,5 billion of muslims. I'm saying that it's a separate thing, we call them in Russia - "separatisty", noone calls them muslims.

    One question, did you read Quran to say that his book is telling exactly the same what tells Quran ?
     
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