The best way to build backlinks WITH money.

Discussion in 'Link Development' started by OliverG, May 15, 2007.

  1. #1
    I was just wondering if their were any services out their that built backlinks for you, for a fee, or something similar...
     
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  2. MattUK

    MattUK Notable Member

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    rdv817 Peon

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  4. OliverG

    OliverG Active Member

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    Thanks for the links. Sorry for not being more specific, i'm well aware of things like TLA, Review Me, Pay Per Post etc. I was hoping for something more permanent?
     
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    MattUK Notable Member

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    The first 5 links in my post all provide permanant links, the last two are rented on a monthly basis.
     
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    login Notable Member

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    A tip. You will get the links cheapest if you buy directly from the owners.
     
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    pcdoc Active Member

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    xfairguy Well-Known Member

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    This reviewme service is good run for the money.
    You can get links and traffic that way.
     
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  9. LinksAndTraffic

    LinksAndTraffic Peon

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    There are two kinds of links that you can get made for you: permanent and rentals.


    With Rental links, you can generally make your purchase decision based on the PageRank of a page.

    The downside with rental links is that Google has stated that they do not like links sold on the basis of PageRank, and they are trying to create systems to identify those links for the purpose of discounting those links. While they may eventually be able to target and negate links developed by systems like TLA, they will never be able to completely identify and discount all links that are sold for the purposes of PageRank.

    In the end, I suppose they are not going to penalize the source or target websites for those links, but they will nullify the value of the individual links in the Google algorithms. Cutts suggested and implemented the rel=nofollow a while back as a tool webmasters could use for the purpose of identifying links for which the webmaster did not want to pass PageRank. The only thing that Google will count on those paid links is that they will treat paid links as rel=nofollow's, so that the webmaster buying the links will be throwing away his or her money if they are buying placement on a webpage solely for the purpose of influencing PageRank.


    The second kind of link is a permanent link. Permanent links come in many formats, and in most cases should be viewed as non-rental links. With rental links, you pay a fee for placement once a month, quarter or year.

    Of course, the Yahoo directory is not viewed as a paid link by the Google engineers, because although you "pay" for the link, Yahoo does not guarantee placement of the link. Instead, Yahoo says that we are paying for "link review" and they do not approve every link submitted to them. Therefore, Yahoo's internal guidance on those links is that they are not going to guarantee links to just anyone who wants one. This is why Google is not discounting those links. Yahoo links of course are not permanent links for life, but rather permanent links for one year until your site comes up for renewal at the end of each consecutive year.

    Permanent in all cases is in the eye of the beholder. Permanent as a rule in the Internet world means that you will not have to pay another fee later to keep that link on the page, where it will reside. In most cases, permanent actually means that the link will live at that location, until the webmaster who owns the website changes his or her website's direction OR goes out of business.

    In my experience, perhaps 10% of the site's where we get links placed will go under within one year. Towards the end of the second year, webmasters will look at their Profit/Loss and make a determination whether their income level will justify shooting for a third year of operation. Another 20% will close their website at the end of the second year run. So, 30% will drop out of business within the first two years. Of the remaining 70%, many of those will survive to the fifth year and beyond. I don't know how long permanent is yet, but links that I built for myself in 1999 continue to produce traffic for my websites today, and they have sent me continuous traffic for years.

    Many permanent links can be acquired on pages that currently have PageRank on them. In those cases, it may simply be a matter of your link being added to a list of links on someone's web page.

    But any link created through a content development method, such as pay-per-post or article marketing, will be posted on a new page on the Internet. All new pages on the Internet begin life at PageRank Zero. It is like the birth of a baby. The baby begins small, but grows into a child, then a teen, and finally an adult. All article pages begin their lives at PageRank Zero, and most of those new pages will grow up as they age, increasing in PageRank as they age. Some web pages get stuck at PR1, but others can grow into pages that are as high as PR6 (at least that is the highest I have seen an article page to date).

    If you trust Matt Cutts of Google, he has indicated that all pages that have a PageRank Zero begin life in the Supplemental Results. He also said that Supplementals are not the end of the road. Cutts stated that the only thing required to bring a web page out of the Supplemental Results is to have that web page gain PageRank. (For those curious why a page went from the Primary Results to Supplemental Results, the answer is that either Google began counting links differently or the links that gave a web page PageRank no longer exist.)


    My conclusion from this information, and I might be biased, is that the use of article marketing for link building is a positive in the Google algorithms. I conclude this because links developed through article marketing begin on pages that have a PR0. So, we are not getting links placed based on acquiring PageRank directly. We are placing links to be placing links, but with good luck, many of those links will gain PageRank over the long haul.

    By the very nature of article marketing, we can ensure that the links we develop for our websites reside on pages that are tightly focused and targeted to the content of our websites. As a result, any links developed through article marketing are relevant to our websites.

    Most websites that post articles do so through a process of moderation, meaning that all article placements have been human reviewed. That human review process at the other end of the transaction puts most article websites on par with Yahoo's human-reviewed directory.

    When we can get our keywords embedded into the link pointing to our websites, then that is always a much better deal. But, that outcome will be affected by the webmaster at the other end of the process. Each webmaster has his or her own rules for article placement, and some of those folks simply do not permit embedded keywords in our links. A plain text link is better than no link at all, although I always strive for the embedded keywords in my links.


    Earlier in this thread, someone mentioned our link building service. For our link building customers, we do employ article marketing, and we guarantee embedded keywords in those links. But, our service is not for everyone. Our service is more for the person looking for a permanent, long-term solution for their search marketing efforts.

    If you have more questions, please feel free to let me know.
     
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    Its easy yes, but expensive. Its expensive because text-link-ads.com charges 50% of the link price.
     
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    So it's best if you just purchase, or rent links here on DP :)

    and linksandtraffic can I put that explanation of rental and permanent links on my blog? lol
     
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  12. LinksAndTraffic

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    i think the best link building way with money is permenant link on directories
     
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    Brandon Sheley Illustrious Member

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    release free templates.
    You can get 50,000 backlinks in a few weeks with some premium templates.
     
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  15. LinksAndTraffic

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    Very true, but the Google team has deemed that to be an inappropriate way to generate links to your website: http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/by-the-way-2/
     
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    Bear in mind that they also said buying links was inappropriate. Cutts just talks.
     
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    Writers more daily articles submitted in quality sites.

    Better IMO than buying links.
     
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    there are many sites that offer link building services. just do a search for that term on google: link building services

    if you have a good writer (or you are one yourself), the article submissions can do you a good service for your money also.
     
    grandaddy, May 17, 2007 IP