Matt Cutts and the paid links

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  1. dargre

    dargre Peon

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    #741
    Instead of Sponsor Links or something like that you can always use:
    BE MY FRIEND (only xxx $$ 1 year) :D
    And then when expired: YOU'RE NOT MY FRIEND ANYMORE! :D

    Did you noticed a change in my footer :)
     
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    #742
    Everything--perfect --but this line. Is it wise?:rolleyes: I am from a third world country and I don't pay my online income to feed my family. My earnings from my regular job is enough to feed them.

    I am online because its my passion to meet people from around the world and make friendship --because I can't afford to visit most countries.

    My online earning goes towards quality development of my sites and Petrol for my Yamaha ( Sorry -I don't own a Car) and myself ( Read Booze)

    So your comment really hurt me. didn't expect such words from ya--. Although what you said is true to some extent --you might have put it in a better way--more wisely.:rolleyes:
     
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  3. malcolm1

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    #743
    [​IMG]

    Ok.......Dedicated to all those haters out there.......:p
     
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  4. an0n

    an0n Prominent Member

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    #744
    Hahahahahaha
     
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  5. paidhosting

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    #745

    Well i think its just a big coverup, if google really wanted that to prevent users with high pr to make money, why not kill PR totally? Than google can go on its mercy way to oblivion if it likes without trying to cook up some new policy? Why is google not doing that and using these so called " tactics to become the monopoly of advertising market? " .

    Gawd i hate it when such big companies and with money power try to take away freedom from webmasters and bend them according to their likings, Is google slave era coming?
     
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  6. malcolm1

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    #746
    heheheeh It was a cool little pic i found and been waiting for the right occasion :p

    such is life as you will always have those that wish they could have that but cant
    afford it or dont feel that they should be left behind .... but such is the way of the world :rolleyes:

    but you do have a choice...
    its called adwords pay now or pay later your choice i reckon :)

    thx
    malcolm
     
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    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #747
    Already posted almost 12 hours ago at http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=3122855&postcount=702
     
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  8. paidhosting

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    #748
    Lol see thats what i was talking about, its all a google strategy to get more people on adwords, simple and pure monopoly strategy.
     
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    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #750
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    #751
    If google took away the page rank system then they would crumble as a company. Just think how hard they would get slammed by so many webmasters out there. But I do not think that this has anything to do with them wanting to monopolize the advertising market. Google will continue to make millions from adwords because there are alot of high powered companies who also make good money by biding on the right keywords.

    Moreover, what are they going to do, turn the entire search engine into adwords? There is only so much room on a page for companies to benifit from it and those that pay the most get the highest spot. Again, this is clearly there way of saying that they are tired of people trying to boost pr. Selling pr is big big business, and just like the goverment on drugs if they are not getting a piece of the pie then they want stop everyone that is.
     
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    #752
    Well that just makes the so called SEO market crumble also, i do not see how a site can rank good without competing with other sites for backlinks, and i do not see getting any backlinks from sites that fear getting blacklisted i suppose?

    So are they really trying to fill their pockets or trying to put un-employment back online ? Well sorry i am a noob at SEO so thats all i know that backlinks get their clients site up at high spots.

    If its not about adsense or adwords and their marketing campaign why fear taking PR down when they do not want anyone to make money of it ? Thats the permanent solution i see, instead of using "fear tactics " ??
     
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    #754
    Well look at this way, since google can not really detect paid links unless it is sitting right in front of their face, a scare tactic is the best way to go. The problem is, it is not really a scare tactic, getting other people to do the work for you makes more sense to them.

    Their algo may be smart, but it will never be smarter then the human mind no matter how hard they try, after all we did in fact invent the algo. I do agree with the fact that if someone is buying links from unrelated sites to boost ranking or pr then yes they should take a hit for that. But if I am lucky enough to find a site that wants to give me a pr9 link from their directory why should I be punished for that? It does not effect search results, which they also claim is the problem as well.
     
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    #755

    Just imagine how hard it now becomes for everyone to make some money :D . No mention of directories offering links for backlinks ? Where is that part ? Did mattcutt not do research about directories properly? And what about free links on site even if they are not related how exactly does google plan to distinguish paid from free? Cause once in month or so i every so often post sitewide free links from sites. Does google know which one is free and which is paid ?

    What google is doing is shooting an arrow in dark and hoping it will hit one of the targets they plan to hit. Man do i hate money leechers or what? Its not like i will go out of business or anything with this policy cause i got my ways to make money if i want to. So do the other smarter webmasters. :p

    PS: thanks minstrel for ur post

    @ malcom is there some race or competition going around about this matt cutts posting and who makes what matts cutt thread ?
     
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    #756
    Well thats just it....

    If im willing to pay or advertise and my site sits on a relevant page.... and it happens to be about what my site is all about
    then i should be able to enjoy the fruits of my talents and nothing be said about it...

    BUT
    if im clearly advertising my site on a Home and Garden site that has a PR8-9 and is clearly ment to fake my page rank 3 months later then i feel that it should not be counted as its irrelevent and not for traffic but just for the passing of PR. (and its not hard figuring it out)

    thx
    malcolm
     
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    #757
    Well banless only solution we all see is make up our own search engine and shove it up googles dash-dash-dash :p .

    But jokes apart will google loose its charm image ? No cause most users searching for stuff online do not know about pr or care for the same. Only those trying to make some income online are the ones gonna losse. So, bottomline google is trying to make few folks un-employed so hopefully they will realize that, cause if someone makes money off you without harming u, that is really a good cause. But does google care about humanity in general ? :eek:

    Its just like dmoz , few join dmoz to make few bucks occasionally , has dmoz been able to do anything to stop that ? :D Google can try but their goal is far from attainable. But than again what is their goal, its certainly not stop users making money off the PR stuff, if that was the case why not attack the root of the problem (aka terminate PR ? ).
     
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    #758

    What makes u say that advertising on viagra site is just for PR ? Those sites get more traffic than probably all ur sites traffic combined, so imagine the possible traffic opportunity u open for urself by getting a link on such a site ?

    How will google determine if its for PR or if its for maybe getting traffic?
     
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    #759
    sorry poor example please see that its been corrected ;)
     
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