Dear Ahmad Malik, i have seen your posts in this forum. I find them very disturbing, you claim people beign brainwashed by the media. And that the terrorists are not muslims. I as an Iranian national feel its my obligation to prove you wrong, so I start this thread, if you feel to have a strong enough faith i urge you to challenge me. I say disslike the terrorists and hate the good muslims. the terrorists are like parasites, they harm you but they die. The good muslims are the ones carrying the eggs ready to spread them and inplant them and realese even more muslims or parasites in society. I find good muslims as you much worse than the terrorists. someone said that islam forces people to convert or die, and that it says so in islamic texts, you said this. I will answer you society virus. "Slay them wherever you find them...Idolatry is worse than carnage...Fight against them until idolatry is no more and God's religion reigns supreme." (Surah 2:190-) Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it." (Surah 2:216) "The only true faith in God's sight is Islam." (Surah 3:19) "Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends." (Surah 5:51) "Make war on them until idolatry shall cease and God's religion shall reign supreme." (Surah 8:36-) "...make war on the leaders of unbelief...Make war on them: God will chastise them at your hands and humble them. He will grant you victory over them..." (Surah 9:12-) "Fight against such as those to whom the Scriptures were given [Jews and Christians]...until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued." (Surah 9:27-) Behold the religion of peace.
Only If Islam can roam freely, you must take all muslims and send them to a camp, only then will you have a good society. And no Iran is still beutifull its like a flower among dirt that is islam. http://www.worldisround.com/articles/98910/
Have a look at my post here: http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=3116115&postcount=148 Interesting Bebo account found under the same name Ahmad_Malik. Oddly enough, the user is only 16 and resides in Pakistan, a country often referenced by the user.
Lol did I read that correctly.. Wood, Cloth, Really, congratulations?? Were you born? man tehranie hastam. een musalmoona kharab cardan iran
I find it interesting you come up with such a broad statement as this and actually accuse another of having disturbing posts.
I dont know if you read it correctly i never use latin letters man mashahdi hastam, ek share islami nizte, imam ali onja morde, badaze shah hame musalmoona ba mullaha onja raftan, mashahad share irania boode hazte bam hamishe memone. irania misle ma baath ba musalmoona dava koonim ke noshon bedim bae charedgia ke Iran islami nizte.
Yes, whats so distrbing about that statement? If you find someone having a disease like bird fluh you put them in quarantin so they dont spread the disease.
HYPOCRISY STRAIGHT AWAY! This is the actual verse: [2:190] You may fight in the cause of GOD against those who attack you, but do not aggress. GOD does not love the aggressors How do you answer this my friend? Huh?
Did you read the previous and following verses? It is for the Prophet (PBUH) and the Companions who were anxiously waiting to fight the Jews and Christians who were laying attrocities but the Prophet (PBUH) asked them to wait until God gave them the green signal.
You call posts made by Ahmed Malik "disturbing"? This is a public forum and many different people have different view points. Not everyone should necessarily agree with you all the time. Are you an Iranian? Or you have heard of a country called Iran before?
That was only to prove that islam is not from God, cause thats not what christianity say about turning the other cheek. Saheeh Bukhary Volume 1, Book 2, Number 29: Narrated Al-Ma'rur: At Ar-Rabadha I met Abu Dhar who was wearing a cloak, and his slave, too, was wearing a similar one. I asked about the reason for it. He replied, "I abused a person by calling his mother with bad names." The Prophet said to me, 'O Abu Dhar! Did you abuse him by calling his mother with bad names You still have some characteristics of ignorance. Your slaves are your brothers and Allah has put them under your command. So whoever has a brother under his command should feed him of what he eats and dress him of what he wears. Do not ask them (slaves) to do things beyond their capacity (power) and if you do so, then help them.' " Was this from allah as well? You choose not to debate the other ones i made, does this mean you agree with them? Im going to leave a nice little comment on the 11 year old girl thread just for you, I hope you will like it. Sahih Muslim B19 #4294 wrote: When you meet your enemies who are polytheists [Christians...], invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these, you also accept it and withhold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them ... If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah's help and fight them
So Ahmad Malik disturbs you but not the Zionist lunatics who wanna nuke Iran ? Ahmad Malik is moderate as can be seen from his posts, I don't really see a reason why he should be a disturbance. Terroism by Muslims disturbs you but not the terrorism of USA in Iraq, Afghanistan, Guantanamo and CIA prisons in Europe ? Good luck with your hypocrisy.
Christians are not polytheist, Christianity is monotheist religion. If you want to pretend that you know what you are talking about then at least try to learn about these things.
What does that have to do with islam? Im against any nation attacking Iran, it will hurt many non muslims. Terroristm by muslims do not disturb me, it is important. People might belive islam was peacefull if it wasnt for them, Just imagine how many people joining islam if it wasnt for the terrorists, they are angels, What The west does in Iraq is taking care of a problem the created in the 80s. In Afghanistan taking revenge for being attacked.
muslims belive that christians are polytheistic, cause of the trinity and calling Jesus God while muslims see him as a prophet, Jesus himself said he was God, but it contradicts with islam. wich is not from the same God, Islam is from the devil, satan is a master of deception he pretended to be an angel.
"Islam is a cult of death. It is intolerant, violent and fanatical. Muhammad was a terrorist. How can one be moderate and follow a terrorist? “Moderate Muslimâ€, is oxymoron. Moderate Muslim is one who does not follow his religion properly. He is a wishy-washy Muslim. To make Muslims moderate you have to ask them not to follow their religion fully. But this is not realistic. Can we tell a person that your religion is good but please don’t practice it? If Islam is good why should people not practice it? And if it is bad why should we not denounce it? Moderate Muslim makes as much sense as "moderate Nazi". Jesus said truth will set you free. What is hurting us are lies. We do not approve what Islam teaches. We don’t like its violence, its intolerance and terror and at the same time we give lip service to it and give it the status of a word religion. We respect its terrorist pedophile founder and his book of terror. We are living a lie. This is hypocrisy. Islam is what Osama Bin Laden and other terrorists practice. The terrorists are following the footsteps of Muhammad. They are not doing anything that Muhammad did not do. If we accept Islam, we must also accept terrorism. Jihad is a duty of every Muslim. It is inseparable from Islam. Muslims have different interpretations of Islam and they fight and kill each other over who is right. This has been going on since the death of Muhammad. But Islam is what the Quran teaches and this book is a manual of terror. You can't read it in any other way. The violence in that book is clear. There is no peaceful version of Islam because it would go against the Quran. There is no such thing as moderate Islam. Every true Muslim, must become a terrorist, kill the non-Muslims and strive to make Islam dominant. If he is not a terrorist he is not a good Muslim. It depends how deep is their faith. If a Muslim truly believes in his religion his allegiance must be to Islam. Since Islam’s goal is to dominate the world, this Muslim will do everything he can to destroy the country in which he lives and pave the road for the Islamic takeover. This has nothing to do with his ethnicity. An American descendent of early pioneers will plot the death of fellow Americans, once he converts to Islam. A British convert strives to kill his fellow countrymen. And a Jew convert to Islam cheers every time there is a suicide bombing in Israel. Here is where you are mistaken. Islam is a political ideology disguised as religion. What is the goal of Islam? The goal of Islam is to take over the world, topple the democracies and establish the Khilafat. This is a political goal. This is the same goal of Nazism and communism. Islam is political. We do not have another form of Islam. The difference between Islam and these two other totalitarian ideologies is that Islam is disguised as a religion and this makes it more insidious. As long as we do not unmask Islam and do not treat it the way it should be treated, as a political ideology bent to overthrow our system and destroy our democracy, we are at a disadvantage. Islam is an impostor. To overcome it we must unmask it. We must know our enemy if we want to win this war. The religious aspect of Islam is only a camouflage. It has been a very seductive and effective cover. Camouflaging his true intentions of domination as religion, Muhammad gave his foolhardy followers the promise of the afterlife orgies with a bevy of celestial perpetually virgin whores and with that he made them wage war, give their wealth to finance Jihad, kill and happily die so he could rule. What can be better than that? You give me everything including your life in this world and I give you a vacuous promise of abundant food and unlimited sex in the afterlife. This is the best bargain I can think of. All I have to do is to say a big lie and fool you. Isn't this what Warren Jeffs has been doing to his followers?" The Interview That Never Happened Author: Ali Sina