[For Sale] ICEHOCKEYRINK.NET $3000 in Adsense a year!

I am selling:
ICEHOCKEYRINK.NET
Has great traffic, makes $3000 in Adsense every year without any text link, a or adwords campaigns.
Natural Traffic.
Selling for less than it makes in a year!
$2800.
Got an offer for a quick sale, shoot it over.

 

any proff of stats and income?

 

Of course!!
I can also offer you some great tips on what we have done with the niche' as a whole.

 

BIN Lowered to $2500.
No Haggle , full disclosure.

 

Stats please

 

PMing you now.

 

OK, IF anyone was ever interested in this domain. Today is the day.
Both:
ICEHOCKEYRINK.NET, and
PORTABLEICERINK.COM (it's on a redirect-domain only)
for $1250
Today only.
Deal must be done today...9a.m. Saturday (PST) at the latest.
After today, you will not see these for sale for quite some time, if ever.
ICEHOCKEYRINK.NET Stats
Check the winter months!

Pay Pal or Wire only! As Is!

 

Do you have adsense stats ?

 

Of course. I'll pm you.

 

any particular reason for not posting adsense stats if you're claiming revenue?
I'd be interested to see them as well

 

No reason, I have sent stats to anyone that asks. I have given the link to the traffic stats.
You can see the age of the domain, the ownership, the registrar. What ever you want
I just don't see the need to put them all over the forum.

Bottom line is, I am selling this for less than it makes, and less than it has made for the last few years.
And less than it's worth..today only.
I'll give you what ever I have, but I am not going to show you 4 years revenue for $1250.

I am being serious here, if you really can't use your tools, and the information given, with earnings and the traffic, and see this for what it is, then it wouldn't matter if I was selling it for $1.
PM sent

 

You chose to send me the adsense stats only for the best months.
Good luck with the sale.

 

Uh yeah, this past winter through March. 2007. (It's HOCKEY!)
And those stats showed you over $600 in 60 days. and a link to the traffic stats up until today.

I don't see the problem. Any idiot should be able to see, if it makes half of the asking price AFTER CHRISTMAS, it is probably . ...never mind.
I showed you the stats from the worst part of the shopping year, and they are still $600 in 60 days. DUH!
You have to have some economic sense to be buying on the web, It doesn't matter, I could be selling it for $1, and you would still want to know if you can make $3,000 from it with out doing anything.

It"s been in the same place for a few years, on a years old adsense account. It's not like it's a newly registered domain.
Would you really rather see stats from yesterday, rather than stats from when it really matters, the stats that I told you about.....during the season that people buy and click? When the money is made to justify the price. Just like I said.
Hockey-Winter!

I also asked for a little contact info, and you declined to divulge any.
Gee, Most people could go,

"HMmnn, look at the traffic in the winter months, Now look at the conversion ration with that traffic, and the revenue produced. Now look at the keywords in the domain itself, the age it has been online with one owner, and the price the guy is asking for TWO keyword domains. The PPC value of the key words.
Clearly less than it makes in one year, and has made over the last 4 years."

Gee, even if you have a 6 month old adsense account, and are not privy to the whole range of publishers of someone with a 5 year + old account.
You can still make a profit, at this price, in less than a year, without any further development or "work" on your end, with 4 fingers up your butt, typing with one hand.

I'm not trying to make any money from the sale, isn't it obvious. I just want this particular set of domains gone, this weekend, and I'm not selling a 5 year old domain with traffic and a great adsense record and good conversions for $30.
after I just showed you $600 in 60 days.
And those aren't even the good months. OCT, NOV, and DEC, up until Christmas are the good months.
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Look the only reason I say this stuff is because, so many of you are looking in the wrong direction.
every post is about how much it makes in adsense. (The lowest form of monetization on the web, and getting worse)
What I , or any seller has done up until now should be an indication of what you can do better in the future.
My adsense account is not the same as yours, and yours is not the same as the next guy.
The amount and type of advertisers that I have access to is different from some one with a 3 month account, so it really does you no good to put sooo much emphasis on adsense, Because it means squat to the next owner, especially if he has a new account.
How many of you have purchased a site, based on the adsense revenue, only to find out it doesn't make what the last guy made, and then you scream and yell that you got ripped off, and the seller forged the statements.

Or...could it be that you were looking for the wrong purchase parameters and were basing your purchase on what someone else did, whose situation is completely different from yours.

A 3 month old account is not going to have access to high dollar advertisers, like a 3 year old account. Mainly becuase of the high rate of click fraud, and the millions of MFA sites that offer nothing to the advertisers.

Do you think you can sign up tomorrow and Google is going to say, "OK , we don't know you and you have no history with us, but, here are our best clients." NO! You have to basically prove yourself that you are worthy of $42 PPC ad.
So instead of basing your purchase SOLELY on someone else's adsense, you should be looking at your own, and the conversion ration of what has happened and then base that on what you can do according to your situation.
This trend of "Warehousing", where you think you can buy a site that makes money for someone else, and you can do the same without knowing anything about the niche' other than "It's a website" is absolutely ridiculous.

A lot of people with no skills are going to find themselves totally dependent on Google, and lose a lot of money.
It is the dumbest business model I have seen since The Savings and Loans Collapse of the 80's, and Enron.

Remember Day Trading? I do.

Do you see high dollar domains (Over $5k) asking for adsense revenue?
Gee, what do those guy know that you don't.
They don't care what I have done with it, they only care about what they are going to do with it, and to make sure it has a clean history.
Instead if you valuate the domain on its value, its history, the traffic, the conversion ration, and what YOU can do with it, and if it fits into your program and if YOU know how to market it, you won't get stuck with a sub performing domain or site.

It's about YOU, not me. You should be able to say, "If he can do that on that suck ass design, then it MUST BE ABOUT THE DOMAIN AND THE TYPE IN TRAFFIC>>>HELLO!!!!". But instead, everyone wants to see my IRS statements.

Websites are not cars. They only make money if the owner has any skills, and they are marketable in the first place.
The domains that I sell are from a personal inventory that goes back to 1997. I do not spend any money on them for un natural traffic.
The whole purpose was to build a portfolio of clean key word .com domains, SEO them, make some money on advertising, and sell them with a great heqad start for a fair price, and a clean history to a new ower.
Who knew 10 years ago, everyone would stop dead and their tracks and base their whole existence on one form of monetization with the highest instances of fraud. as if it was the cash cow of he internet.
No one even considers their own skills and development potential anymore....all every one wants to know is, "Well...how much did you make with it"? Should be a slight consideration, not the main..What if I suck? What if you suck?

What if Google stopped allowing adsense accounts that didn't make over a certain amount a year?
What if Google did something different with the whole program?
Would every webmaster on all the forums suddenly go back to waiting tables?

"The success of a one trick Pony is short lived"

They are all clean and as is, no fake outs, or paid referrers that I will take away after the sale.
A nice little investment, but as you see, I am getting away from adsense.

I know it's scam city out here, but it's just too easy to check people out, and when someone won't tell you their name, but wants to see financial information from me, it's just not going to happen.
I don't need to stay anonymous because I have nothing to hide.

That my real name up there, and I approved this message.

Now....with that said....does anyone want to buy these two old domains for less than they are worth, throw some color on them, an NHL affiliate program, your adsense account and see a decent return on your investment, come the next 10 winters?
FYI, During the last NHL strike, traffic was in the 100's of thousands during hockey season.

If you don't know Hockey, don't buy a hockey domain..How are you going to know if you are marketing it effectively if you don't understand the surfers? .tip number 367.

 

For what it's worth, I Dropped the price of this one to $1200 flat, and I also though I would share an article on valuation, and monetization with you that makes all of my points as to why I say the things that I do about how misguided the purchase questions are.
http://tropicalseo.com/2007/how-to-build-an-affiliate-site-you-can-sell-for-1m/

 

I appreciate your concern, I do.
I hope you also appreciate my concern about your stated adsense revenue when you had 20000 unique in a year and made $3000 of them. $3000 is an extremely high number for 20000 uniques around here. Sure, its possible, I don`t say that, if you have 30% ctr its $1 each, but it is not normal around here, thats all.

So you may understand more about why people are asking about it now.

 

I do. And I am more than happy to offer what ever I can. But you also need to understand the nature of the niche', the popularity of Hockey, especially in Mid West U.S., and the the difference in the traffic.
It is definitely seasonal, but it is good in season, plus the site is a few years old.
Obviously the site itself is nothing to win any design awards, which is why I have it listed in Domains. The keyword/type in value is strong.
I didn't know so many people searched for backyard ice rinks either, and I'm a hockey fan.
I am not one to inflate earnings, (we have made decent money from it over the years, especially since I am not the biggest fan of adsense, but the ad structure is different depending on the age of the account, and the number of, if any, of "Hiccups" and infractions.

That's why I always say, using the adsense revenue alone to determine value and potential is a dangerous business model to follow.
I only mention it on the forums because so many people only care about that, and that alone.

When I sell to others, outside of the forums, that is the least of their concerns, because many buyers have their own vision for development.

Believe me, we have sites that barely make $20 a month, this just happens to be one that is good, and we don't want it anymore.

There are other factors, and adsense has not been the only form of monetization over the years, but that seems to be the only concern here, and I can't teach everyone about how to sell rinks, liners and accessories.

I would give a buyer everything I have on it, and even some tips on what we have done over the years with it to maximize potential.
It's just extremely disconcerting to continuously show financial statements to strangers, (after all those are (taxable)business records), who won't even tell you their name.
IMO, without even seeing OUR income, the value speaks for itself, and it really won't be the exact same for someone new. It could be better, or it could be worse, it's really up to the skills of the buyer. But the foundation for excellence is already laid out, and established

Besides that, I'm opinionated, but I mean no harm to anyone.
I just enjoy a vigorous discussion at times.

 

alot of this could have to do with target marketing
i do some sports sites and if your known in forums and stuff of colelctors they will use your site. During the season of the sport it is always higher ratings for the site. and if hes got hockey people using the site he will have good stats i have found with my ebay stuff and on forums hockey collectors are spenders.

 

Definitely true. If you know the niche', and will put a little development into it..the domain is very solid. I mean, look at it! It's not pretty by no means (the site), And we still made money from it for over 4 years.

 

There's nothing on the website apart from Google Adsense and a few pictures..

 

Yes, I know. This is the domains section, not the website section.
I am selling them as is, as aged domains with traffic and revenue.
It just so happens that they also make some money.

I am dropping the price to $1000
as is.
ICEHOCKEYRINK.NET, and
PORTABLEICERINK.COM (it's on a redirect-domain only)

Price based on age , traffic, type ins value, keywords, and I will let you know about the revenue that they have generated, but this IS NOT, a sale based on revenue.
Will you make money if you don't do anything? YES!
I just want to get these off the books, and I am selling them for less than I make from them.
I have a lot of domains. This is a sale of convenience and me "trimming down".
That is why I am willing to let them go, but not just give them away.
If any one is interested, get them now. If anyone gets in the ball park , for a no hassle deal, they are gone!

This is for the period of Jan 1 to March 1 of this year.: (Winter)

January 1, 2007 - March 1, 2007


CSV
Totals 41,094 4,842 11.78% $16.91 $694.75
Date Page impressions Clicks Page CTR Page eCPM [ ?] Earnings
Monday, January 1, 2007 1,722 105 6.10% $9.28 $15.99
Tuesday, January 2, 2007 1,901 89 4.68% $4.46 $8.48
Wednesday, January 3, 2007 1,389 78 5.62% $9.41 $13.07
Thursday, January 4, 2007 606 86 14.19% $21.57 $13.07
Friday, January 5, 2007 777 91 11.71% $16.92 $13.14
Saturday, January 6, 2007 423 67 15.84% $18.63 $7.88
Sunday, January 7, 2007 617 95 15.40% $15.52 $9.57
Monday, January 8, 2007 630 109 17.30% $28.15 $17.73
Tuesday, January 9, 2007 700 94 13.43% $12.63 $8.84
Wednesday, January 10, 2007 719 98 13.63% $14.65 $10.53
Thursday, January 11, 2007 715 87 12.17% $25.82 $18.46
Friday, January 12, 2007 698 67 9.60% $22.96 $16.02
Saturday, January 13, 2007 714 109 15.27% $28.36 $20.25
Sunday, January 14, 2007 673 86 12.78% $16.51 $11.11
Monday, January 15, 2007 764 92 12.04% $16.95 $12.95
Tuesday, January 16, 2007 794 84 10.58% $20.07 $15.93
Wednesday, January 17, 2007 756 80 10.58% $11.86 $8.97
Thursday, January 18, 2007 734 93 12.67% $14.96 $10.98
Friday, January 19, 2007 654 71 10.86% $10.97 $7.18
Saturday, January 20, 2007 773 120 15.52% $15.37 $11.88
Sunday, January 21, 2007 918 102 11.11% $16.21 $14.88
Monday, January 22, 2007 891 138 15.49% $20.99 $18.70
Tuesday, January 23, 2007 816 84 10.29% $14.86 $12.13
Wednesday, January 24, 2007 742 92 12.40% $16.40 $12.17
Thursday, January 25, 2007 804 121 15.05% $33.33 $26.80
Friday, January 26, 2007 796 98 12.31% $20.82 $16.57
Saturday, January 27, 2007 715 62 8.67% $11.54 $8.25
Sunday, January 28, 2007 900 107 11.89% $17.00 $15.30
Monday, January 29, 2007 978 81 8.28% $10.17 $9.94
Tuesday, January 30, 2007 891 93 10.44% $12.85 $11.45
Wednesday, January 31, 2007 743 84 11.31% $13.01 $9.67
Thursday, February 1, 2007 555 60 10.81% $20.06 $11.13
Friday, February 2, 2007 522 35 6.70% $20.80 $10.86
Saturday, February 3, 2007 506 43 8.50% $13.77 $6.97
Sunday, February 4, 2007 573 45 7.85% $8.95 $5.13
Monday, February 5, 2007 726 50 6.89% $14.50 $10.53
Tuesday, February 6, 2007 521 34 6.53% $6.15 $3.20
Wednesday, February 7, 2007 499 42 8.42% $11.73 $5.85
Thursday, February 8, 2007 473 45 9.51% $17.17 $8.12
Friday, February 9, 2007 463 40 8.64% $25.28 $11.70
Saturday, February 10, 2007 461 59 12.80% $19.98 $9.21
Sunday, February 11, 2007 542 41 7.56% $12.48 $6.76
Monday, February 12, 2007 565 69 12.21% $28.78 $16.26
Tuesday, February 13, 2007 498 55 11.04% $23.18 $11.54
Wednesday, February 14, 2007 519 55 10.60% $24.85 $12.90
Thursday, February 15, 2007 509 54 10.61% $27.43 $13.96
Friday, February 16, 2007 456 27 5.92% $10.69 $4.87
Saturday, February 17, 2007 417 66 15.83% $14.22 $5.93
Sunday, February 18, 2007 435 64 14.71% $19.28 $8.39
Monday, February 19, 2007 537 133 24.77% $24.40 $13.10
Tuesday, February 20, 2007 579 118 20.38% $45.10 $26.11
Wednesday, February 21, 2007 523 78 14.91% $16.47 $8.61
Thursday, February 22, 2007 532 84 15.79% $19.62 $10.44
Friday, February 23, 2007 495 84 16.97% $15.02 $7.44
Saturday, February 24, 2007 441 88 19.95% $16.90 $7.45
Sunday, February 25, 2007 551 104 18.87% $16.86 $9.29
Monday, February 26, 2007 578 89 15.40% $13.93 $8.05
Tuesday, February 27, 2007 565 113 20.00% $18.28 $10.33
Wednesday, February 28, 2007 567 97 17.11% $16.12 $9.14
Thursday, March 1, 2007 533 107 20.08% $25.41 $13.54
Totals 41,094 4,842 11.78% $16.91 $694.75
Averages 684 80

Sorry, the columns won't hold, but you can get a picture of 90 days revenue in the winter months, AFTER CHRISTMAS!


Thanks