Ron Paul has landslide victory at GOP Debates: He is ignored by the corp media.

Not at all. Denying alex jones is your influencer is the desperation.

 

Fox, or prison planet?

Like I said, terrorist supporters are not fond of Fox. Looks like we finally got a confirmation on that one

 

Why not double up quotes into one post GT?

No wonder you have so many posts.

The rate you're going you'll overtake that blogmaster dude before your hero Bush leaves office.

And please do not get confused, terrorist supporters are maybe not fond of FOX News but terrorists do control FOX News.

 

You really are only a one trick pony.

 

I definitely don't think he is a racist.

I just need some clarification on what exactly he meant by "policing the world"?

There are a lot of conflicts that America has basically placed themselves in the middle of. The North/South Korea conflict, China/Taiwan conflict, Israel/every Muslim country conflict etc. If we didn't threaten to intervene in these situations these countries would definitely be at war right now.

In one way another U.S. involvement in world conflicts is in our best interest.

 

This Pax Americana which we have enforced, albeit only partially, since the end of WWII, has benefited huge portions of the globe. We effectively eliminated war for many countries.

Nations have been free to drastically reduce or completely eliminate their military spending, because they know that if anything goes wrong the U.S. will be there to save them.

Other nations know that they must behave peacefully towards their neighbors, or the big bad U.S. will come and smack them down.

Paul doesn't believe that we should go out of our way to help anyone. That makes sense, right? I mean, who really gives a damn? Would it have been so bad for us if the Soviets had overrun all of Western Europe in the 1950's?

It's a good argument, but I believe that it is an incorrect argument. I believe that we benefit from living in a (comparatively) peaceful world. Moreover, I believe that the technical advances of the next century will absolutely require that we enforce peace across the globe. A hundred years ago -- and even today -- a pariah nation could only damage it's nearby neighbors. It is inevitable that technology will make nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons easy enough to build that even a third-world dictatorship will be able to manufacture them. When that happens, any pariah nation will be able to affect every nation on earth.

We are approaching the point where peace isn't the best option -- it's the only option. And the only way to enforce that peace is through the might of the United States Armed Forces. Anyone who threatens the peace gets smacked down fast and hard, and eventually people learn not to threaten the peace.

 

And how much debt has the US run up? I don't think there's going to be much more smacking down.

 

The U.S. has one of the healthiest economies on Earth.

Yes, the government keeps a lot of debt due to political weakness.

However, anyone who thinks that they are safe to cause trouble due to U.S. fiscal considerations is in for a major shock.

Do you remember how far we tanked the economy in WWII? Do you remember how quickly we recovered? The U.S. can do amazing things when we find the political will.

The U.S. national debt isn't spinning wildly out of control at this time, and has in fact remained reasonably steady since 1991 -- despite the unexpected expenditures required in response to Islamist violence.

 

This is a complete joke. How can we have one of the healthiest economies when the average American owes $10,000 in credit card debt?

Yeah, we have so many Americans working three jobs just to pay the bills, that sounds like a real healthy economy. The reality is that most Americans are borrowers. They borrow for houses, cars, education, television, healthcare.

While the "official" rate of inflation is about 2%, a lot of people agree that this is not a true reflection of the inflation rate, which is probably between 6 and 8%

We have a central bank called the Fed(Which by the way the founding fathers never wanted) which prints untold amounts of money. The U.S. dollars is NOT backed by gold, and it hasn't been since 1971. Basically, the Fed can print as much money as it wants, further weakening the value of the dollar.

Alan Greenspan and Ben Bernanke then try to solve the inflation issue by increasing interest rates. However, this can cause an economic collapse, because since so many Americans borrow, having to pay higher interest rates will reduce consumer spending, thus reducing the profits of companies.

In other words, our economy is screwed. When you add in outsourcing and illegal immigration, as well as Bush's amnesty plan, which proposes bringing unlimited foreign workers into the U.S., the country is doomed.

Oh, I forgot about NAFTA and CAFTA. That makes it even worse. Will, did you watch Ron Paul during the GOP debate? He talked about inflation being a tax. He is absolutely correct. It is an invisible tax, because it causes the prices on goods to go up, so Americans have to pay more. When you add this to the income tax, it is so easy to see why few Americans will ever achieve any degree of wealth.

Anyone who is interested can read this long thread for more details:http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=68557

This thread explains why most Americans, even those who make six figure incomes, are not truly wealthy at all...

 

People said the country was doomed last year. And the year before and the year before and the year before and the year before and the year before. john kerry said it was the worst jobs loss since the depression, yet we're in danger of having too much employment and more and more and more and more and more jobs are created due to the strength of the economy.

Fortunately for you, though, tesla...you're voting Republican this time around So the democrats won't have a chance to destroy the economy by taxing the living hell out of everyone and reduce those record setting tax revenues we've seen over the last three years, because more and more and more and more and more people are working and contributing their part.

 

Americans like to spend. Money is fairly cheap right now. We will pay for it eventually, but it's not as if $10k is a lot of money.

For the record, my main credit card has a $30,000 limit and a $0 balance and I paid cash for my 2000 Toyota 4Runner on 2 January, 2000.

Tell me Mr. Lizard what currencies are currently backed 100% by gold?

You can buy gold if you want. Go ahead -- no one is stopping you.

Any government intervention can cause an economic collapse. Isn't it funny that this keeps not happening -- at least not since FDR's economic advisers were kicked to the curb.

Oh no! My heart bleeds for them. Not.

Companies should have to work for their money, just like people. I don't give a damn if their profits are reduced. WORK HARDER!

Don't be ignorant. Outsourcing makes our economy more efficient, which is a serious benefit to our consumers and our competitiveness.

"Illegal" immigration is a farce. If we didn't have moronic anti-immigration laws and ridiculous welfare systems, we wouldn't have "illegal" immigration. Anyone who thinks that immigration is going to cause unemployment not only completely fails to grasp basic economic theory -- they also don't have their eyes open to what is currently happening to the American economy.

w00 h00! (Semi) Free Trade! The #1 best think to happen to raise the standard of living of human beings both here and across the globe! Our best chance for both prosperity and peace! w00 h00!

Inflation is a tax, only if you are holding cash. If you hold any sort of asset, it's value rises with inflation.

Yes, inflation makes prices go up. It also makes wages go up. The net effect is zero (unless you are holding M0).

Wealth is measured in relative terms. In any economy, only a small percentage of people will be considered wealthy.

How about you ignore DP threads and read up on some basic economic theory? I recommend Smith, Ricardo, von Mises, Hayek, and Friedman.

Then, go make yourself a millionaire.

Then, it might be possible to take you seriously.

 

Add to that, that this country gains far more jobs on account of other countries outsourcing than it loses to its own outsourcing.

 

$10,000 may not be a lot of money to someone like yourself who makes a large income each month, but I'm talking about the average American, who only makes $33,000 per year or less. $10,000 is tough to pay off if you don't make a lot. You also forgot about the compound interest the bank charges on the loan. It is the compound interest that makes the loan hard to pay off.

Not everyone makes a high income like yourself. You have to look at the middle class and working poor. It is easy to preach about how great the economy is when you're living good. Talk to someone who is working three jobs just to pay the bills. They have a perspective that is a bit different...

One more thing. If you did research, you would know that $10,000 is actually a lot. If it wasn't, why do Americans need to borrow it to buy stuff? Also, about 42% of the population only has about $1,200 in the bank or less. 10 grand would sure be a lot to them. If 10 grand was a small amount of money, people wouldn't owe it, because they could pay it off easily!

The problem with you Will is simple. You look at things from the top down, instead of the bottom up. Me, I look at things from the bottom up. I grew up poor as dirt. I know first hand what it means to be poor in this country.

The Swiss franc is backed by gold. It is a strong currency, unlike the U.S. dollar, which is fiat. You're right, I can buy gold, but the U.S. dollar is not backed by it, which means the economy is in trouble as long as the Fed can print as much as it wants.

A welfare state is the reality. With Bush's amnesty plan, which brings unlimited skilled workers into the U.S., many Americans will lose their job. My god, what documents do you get your information from? In my brothers hometown, the government subsidizes immigrants.

40 percent of the population is already below the poverty line, and the government subsidizes the three largest companies in the cities to hire immigrants. Wow, thats really going to help the job situation down there. In a city where most native born Americans find it hard to get good jobs, the government goes and subsidizes immigrants to work at the three largest companies in the city. How can this be a good thing?

So you've fell for the "free trade" scam. NAFTA and CAFTA are for multinationals, not for small businesses or the middle class. The corps will pay Latin Americans pennies to do work, taking away American jobs in the process.

Free trade is great............when it is true free trade. These trade deals are not free. It just allows corporations to hire people for lowest amount possible in foreign countries.

It depends on what the asset earns. If the asset isn't earning more than 8%, you're not really going to beat inflation. You are also looking at things from a personal rather than national level. As a whole, the country is hurt by this invisible tax.

Gold, silver, and precious metals are the only assets that are truly inflation proof.

You're right, but America is losing its Middle Class. I've talked to middle class people, and they all say the same thing: It is becoming harder for them to get by and save for retirement.

Without a Middle Class, America goes in the toilet. The reason why this country became so powerful is because you could be born dirt poor, but work hard, and make something of yourself. You can't do this in most countries. If you aren't born rich, you will never get rich. There is only rich and poor, no middle class.

NAFTA, CAFTA, and outsourcing will destroy the middle class. Bringing unlimited skilled immigrants into the U.S. will destroy this country. In addition to this, innovation will occur in the countries where jobs are outsourced. It won't be long before China and India starts companies using the information they've obtained from corps that outsourced jobs within their borders.

When you outsource jobs, the countries which get the jobs end up becoming innovators. Once this happens, the U.S. is done. In the future, you can expect technological discoveries to be made in India and China, not America. By sending our manufacturing to a foreign country, we just sent the foundation for our innovation as well.

I've read plenty on economics. I'd say I'm doing pretty good. 25 years old, no debt, an online business that is growing, with a 5 digit net worth. Not too shabby, considering I grew up in poverty, without a father I might add. I'm not a millionaire yet, but if I keep doing what I'm doing now, I'm certain I will get there in the not too distant future.

I don't need anyone to take me seriously. My actions speak a lot louder than my words. By the way, my economic views are shared by established people such as Paul Craig Roberts, an economist who worked during the Reagan administration, and Joseph E Stigliz, Nobel Prize winner. I also get many of my views from Ron Paul, who is also highly educated. All my information comes from them. I'd say my economics is right on target..........

I've read books written by scholars on the rise of China, and what it means for the U.S. economy. I also believe in the philosophy of Thomas J. Stanley and Robert Kiyosaki. I'm not a millionaire, but I'm friends with a guy who is, and he has told me he is very impressed with my high level of discipline and foresight.

I don't mean to brag, but the old rules need to be thrown out the window...........and replaced with new ones.