Ron Paul has landslide victory at GOP Debates: He is ignored by the corp media.

By the MSM sheeple? accepted by Alex Jones fans?

 

The sheeple-in-chief:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soohikNdbWs

 

We have already been through all that don't you learn anything?

 

I'm surprised nobody has made a thread on the recent terrorist visit to Iraq actually.

Here's a picture of him though.

 

Most people with common sense that don't let alex jones think for them know your claim, as usual, is fictional. But honesty and integrity has never been your strong point. Is this how you conduct your business as well? Could I buy 100 hours of your service with fictional money? Oh wait, I know, I can just claim I paid you, even though I didn't, because on the Internet, we can just make up the facts as we go along! Yeah!

 

How are we winning the war Gtech? Bush said major combat operations were over in 2003, and he were are again, in 2007, with more troops dying per month than at any point during the war.

Before we went into Iraq, there was no civil war. Now there is. How can we say we have done a good job? And exactly when is this "War on Terror" supposed to end? It can't because you can't win a war on terror, that is the whole point. How can you fight a war on terror when war is basically terror?

By the way Yahoo is still ignoring Ron Paul. After being contacted, Yahoo claims that Ron Paul "never officially announced his decision to run," even though he filed back in March. Ron Paul is ignored by ABC, Ignored by Yahoo, but every other candidate including Tancredo and Brownback were listed. Whats going on here?

 

When the bad guys give up.

Don't ask us when the war will end -- ask your buddies in Al Qaeda!

Here is what they will tell you -- straight from the Al Qaeda Charter:

"There Will Be Continuing Enmity Until Everyone Believes In Allah. We Will Not Meet [The Enemy] Halfway And There Will Be No Room For Dialogue With Them."​

So, don't look for this war to end soon and don't expect that any degree of groveling or cow-towing you can do will accomplish anything. Convert, die, or kill.

 

Bullets kill humans, not ideas. and who exactly are the bad guys Will? This isn't a video game, this is reality. The world isn't Black and White. The "bad guys" see us as being the "bad guys," and themselves as good guys.

You also neglect all the evidence that shows our government sponsors terror around the world. Operation Ajax, and the overthrow of the "elected" Guatemalan government is a great example.

When we drop bombs on Iraqi cities, and kill innocent women, men, and children who are not even fighting, you have tendency to piss off the population. I think you would be pissed Will if someone killed a member of your family. If someone invades the U.S., and someone in my family dies close to me, like my brother, I'm going to take up arms and fight, to the death.

This is exactly what the people in Iraq are doing. Our "smart" bombs aren't so smart, they land on hospitals and schools. Saddam had nothing to do with 911, he hated Bin Laden. So explain why we are in Iraq Will? WMDs? They haven't even found them.

You've been playing too many Command and Conquer games. In the real world, if you want peace, you do something called negotiation. Or better, you just mind your own business. You can't fight terror with more terror. The violence just perpetuates itself. I'm not a pacifist, but a realist. You invade a country, and people will keep fighting you forever. Each day our troops are getting killed, hundreds in a single month. Its going to end just like Vietnam. They are going to keep sneaking bombs on roads, killing soldiers until our government pulls out.

Our government starts many of the problems we see today. Please try to tell me Will that our government didn't back the Mujahadeen against the soviets. Please try to explain this one. First they are our friends, then our enemies.

Maybe if the U.S. followed a non-interventionist policy, like Ron Paul advocates, and George Washington advocated, we wouldn't be in a War on Terror.

And as for my groveling and cow towing, as you call it, most people are starting to turn against the war, and the Bush administration. So in actuality, it is working. Americans want the troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan, and Ron Paul, not Giuliani or Mitt Romney, is the man that will do it.

And and I know you're going to try to say we got attacked on 911 and that is why we are fighting the War on Terror, but most of the hijackers were from Saudi Arabia, but we invade Iraq and Afghanistan. That sure makes a lot of sense.

Correct if I'm wrong but, aren't you the person who started a thread not too long ago asking which countries were good to live in outside the United States? I think that was you right? If that was you, and I think it was, it sounds like you're losing faith in your own country. You know the United States is falling apart, and you know the government, both Democrats and Republicans, are responsible. That is why you probably want to leave, and to be quite honest, I don't blame you.

But if we get someone like Ron Paul in office, who wants to get rid of the income tax, bring the troops home, and turn the United States into a Republic instead of an EMPIRE, the country might actually have a chance. But you guys attack him on his belief about 911, when all the evidence shows he is right.

One more thing: Bush went to war in Iraq without even having Congress declare war, a complete violation of the Constitution. War was never officially declared, and we invaded simply to enforce U.N. resolution.

 

Tesla:

You completely ignored the point of my post, which was embodied in this single line:

"There Will Be Continuing Enmity Until Everyone Believes In Allah. We Will Not Meet [The Enemy] Halfway And There Will Be No Room For Dialogue With Them."​

You cannot make peace. It's not that you don't want to. It's not that I don't want to. It's not that George Bush doesn't want to. We can't do it without surrendering.

When one team wants a war, there will be a war. The other team has two options:

1. War
2. Surrender

Unless we are willing to surrender to fundamentalism Islam, we will be engaged in this war -- whether you want to be or not.

Regarding your latest point, the use of force without a formal declaration of war, this is a commonly repeated urban myth -- and one which is easily debunked with just the slightest bit of historical research. You should be ashamed of yourself for spreading such a ridiculous untruth.

In our nations history, we have made formal declarations of war only eleven times:

• War with Great Britain 1812
• War with Mexico 1846
• War with Spain 1898
• War with Germany 1917
• War with Austria-Hungary 1917
• War with Japan 1941
• War with Germany 1941
• War with Italy 1941
• War With Bulgaria 1942
• War with Hungary 1942
• War with Rumania 1942

And yet we have used military force more than two hundred times with no formal declaration of war.

Formal declarations of war have their uses, but their general usage had declined sharply since the Peace of Versailles in 1763. This is not in any way unconstitutional or illegal.

If you are of a mind to learn the truth, read CRS Report for Congress: Declarations of War and Authorizations for the Use of Military Force: Historical Background and Legal Implications.

 

So you would advocate inviting Osama to the white house? do you think he would listen or compromise?

 

Trained in afghanistan and Iran. Does their country of origin matter that much to you, or it just a talking point?

 

Myspace just admitted censoring him
"accidentally"

Al down to the embaressing questions about the federal reserve and who
controls it.......
If I was American I would vote for him simply becuse he would be unlikely to invade a country simply becuse they had oil, stage a fake terrorist attack, and take over the media.
If Bush runs out of countries with oil to occupy will he invade the North Sea by any chance?

 

The tie that binds is still there.

 

He's struggling enough to keep up the BS illegal sham he instigated in Iraq mate, I think the North Sea is safe for the time being.

As I keep on telling the sheeple here day in and day out, it is not going to get any better out there. Over 4 years since his infamous "Mission Accomplished" BS and the situation is worse than ever. Putting more troops into it is not making a scrap of difference. I'm just watching Americas biggest neocon supporter Bill O'Reilly on FOX News (news you can trust ) and he's spinning it to the sheeple as best he can but even the sheeple can see it's a disaster out there, unless they have got their "Hannity and Colmes" rose tinted glasses on that is.

 

Lol, this is real funny. Will, you're falling for the oldest trick in the book. The government creates an enemy, scares the population into fearing them, and then uses this fear to start a war and enslave their own population.

First off, Fundamentalism Islam is about as much a threat the Neonazis, KKK, or Skinheads. They have no true power. You could not debunk the fact that the U.S. DID support the Mujahadeen against the Soviets. Bin Laden was our boy. We trained him and the people in the Middle East who we are fighting now.

Any type of power these Islamic terrorist groups have is a result of funding by our government. By the way Will, our loving government George W. Bush recently backed an invasion in Somalia by Ethiopia, and guess what? The same Warlords that killed our troops in Somalia in 1993 have been put back in power by our own government.

You see, the Islamic Courts were bringing stability to Somalia, but oh no, the U.S. government can't have stability in Africa. So they have put the same warlords back in power that were portrayed in the movie Black Hawk Down.

So much for freedom and democracy.......now Somalia is back in chaos again, and U.S. oil companies are mining in the area.......

We are the country that created radical Islam. You also couldn't debunk the fact that the U.S. government has sponsored terror in other countries through regime changes. Terrorism? The CIA are the biggest terrorists in town!

You guys have to get past this red team vs blue team mentality. The government isn't angels, and the people in the middle east aren't demons. The world isn't black and white, it is mixed with shades of gray and color.

Ron Paul is the person who will changes things. If you vote for Giuliani, Mitt Romney, McCain, Barack, or Hillary, you may want to get ready to leave the country, because there won't be a country for very long.......

As AGS has said multiple times, the elites have picked Hillary to win. They are trying to block Ron Paul in everyway imaginable. Lorien tries to make half baked excuses for how online polls are not accurate, but almost every poll shows Ron Paul won the debate.

He is blocked by ABC. He is censored by MySpace. Yahoo "forgets" to put him on their candidates page, then lies and says he didn't file to run for the election, when he actually filed on March 12!!!

I tell you one thing. Will, you guys might want to get on our side, and accept the reality that a powerful group of people is in control, and they are trying to block a TRUE American patriot from getting in office.

Hell, I bet if Ron Paul got enough momentum, he might suddenly "die" and you guys wouldn't think it was a conspiracy, even though all the evidence shows it.

You guys will keep believing in your government until the country completely falls apart. Maybe once we're merged with Canada and Mexico you'll get it, but it will be too late.........

The dollar is currently falling, I hope the country doesn't enter a stage of hyperinflation, or I will need to start buying gold. Ben Bernanke said he would print the dollar in record numbers, and it sounds like that is exactly what he has done.

 

I keep telling them all the time mate, but the dumb-asses are just too blind to see what is happening to them. And as you say, by the time they do get it it's already too late.

My bet is Americas fake mayor Giuliani v Hillary Clinton. Of course (as I have been saying for months) Clinton has already been given the call but we are going to have to go through the utter sham like we did with Bush and Kerry.

Ron Paul is seriously the only honest guy from a bunch of complete arseholes. Too honest and cares for the American people, that is why he has not got a hope in hells chance. Sad but true.

 

The ties that bind.

Those lizard people have gotten to you too, Tesla? They work fast!

I think the voters will do that. Are you even registered republican, Tesla? If not, then you can't even vote for your hero.

A plot on his life already? They could just make him go insane, like they did with Howard Dean in 2004. That was rather effective.

Brown people! And Canadians! What could be worse.

 

No lizards here babe, it is not difficult to figure it out.

The only way Clinton will not make it as the next President is if she dies before then of natural causes, and most of these corrupt bastards seem to live forever, look at Dick Cheney and all the health problems he's had.

 

Lorien didn't address the part about Somalia, but there really isn't a whole lot to debate on that issue.........the situation in Iraq and Somalia is the same.

 

I think he's waiting for Hannity & Colmes, Rush Limpball or Bill O'Reilly to say something first mate, give him time.