Intelligent design Vs Organic evolution

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  1. Jackuul

    Jackuul Well-Known Member

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    #21
    Since ignorance about Zacharia Sitchin is obvious, let me quote a bit from El Wiki.
    for the rest just follow the link
     
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    #22
    Nope, 50 years ago there was a theory that the moon came from the sea, it was thaught together with evolution. The big bang theor is the most hanging one, and the age of the earth changes all the time to some billions of years.

    Theorys are not fact but most likley ideas, If not proven it will remain the evolution theory, one day maybe it will be proven to be thrue.

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    This is a scull of a long dead dog, if it was digged up in a place where humans or apes where likley to be, it would be another human specie!
     
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    #23
    Every part of evolutionary theory is backed up by mountains of empirical evidence. Intelligent design? None.

    What facts are you looking at? :rolleyes:
     
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    #24
    Except it is smaller than a human skull, and it is obviously not human through skull structures. Anyone who has worked with bones could see that this is a canine.
     
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    #25
    Theories are ideas supported by scientific facts. They're like a conclusion, you come to it when you've examined all the facts and made sure they support the conclusion. If the facts change, you either change the theory to reflect the facts, or abandon the theory. It's reasonable, it's intelligent, it's the closest you can get to the truth.

    Your ideas on the other hand have no facts, just wild speculation and poor education. I mean come on man, you actually believe aliens came to earth and created us from monkeys. How the hell did you think that up? Or did you just read it on some crackpot's website?
     
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    #26
    Anyone who worked with bones? Those people claimed t-rex ate meat cause it had similliar structure of flesh eaters. Does rats evolve from humans cuase we both are red inside?
     
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    #27
    What does the bing bang have anything to do with Darwinian Theory of Evolution by Natural Selection?
     
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    #28
    Exactly theorys are theorys. Its my conclusion cause the oldest of the oldest, 10.000 years and older all have the same higly advanced architecture and sience, mayan calendar was the planets and the stars, they all have the same story of aliens giving them civilizations, and created them. And always from the sky.

    Most scientist today agree that the sphinx was made in the year of the lion, 10.500 years ago, but the old school darwinists says that isnt so. We found 10.000 old citys all over the world and are told civilization started 7000 years ago in sumeria. And then we learn about evolution.

    Oh there is facts, if you will listen to it.
     
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    #29
    They are all theories forever changing sometimes proven wrong.
     
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    #30
    Why would you travel all those light years to tinker around with ape DNA to make humans unless you specifically wanted the new creature to do something for you? Are you telling us that we're a science project that was forgotten about? Come on, use Occam's Razor, the simplest answer is likely the correct one. You don't need aliens to make humans for humans to have come about.

    No aliens, no proof.
     
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    #31
    That's because science corrects itself.
     
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    #32
    So old means true? Since when? We used to think that smoking wasn't bad for us, since that idea is old does it make it any less false? No, it doesn't. Your theories are just as weak. Actually, they aren't even theories, they're speculation. Stupid, stupid speculation.

    I don't even understand what the rest of your post is trying to explain. What do old cities have to do with evolution? Nothing...
     
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    #33
    There wasn't a primordial ooze. Some alien hocked out a giant loogey from his spaceship, it landed on earth, and that's where we came from. Fact.
     
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    #34
    I do not know what they intended, im not one of them. "No proof no evolution fact only theory".
     
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    #35
    Smoking has been proven to harm you, so has sun rays, the ancient loved the sun does that mean we shouldnt be on the beach and get a tan?

    Old cities show that humans had civilizations before the evolution theory says we had.
     
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    #36
    That's called circular reasoning and it's entirely besides the point of the original point you were making. You said that if that skull was found beside human skulls people would think it's from a long long human ancestor. The evidence does not support your statement and then you decided to shift the subject.

    I can easily use your arguement against you too. There were no species that magically appeared today on Earth, therefore intelligent origin is bunk. How does that sound to you since rats and humans are both "red" on their insides?
     
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    #37
    What the hell are you talking about?
     
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    #38
    No, the difference is that there is a lot of evidence that points strongly to Darwinian theory being the likely answer as to where humans came from. There is no evidence that humans came from space aliens.

    No proof of space aliens creating humans, only your theory, and with no evidence to back it up you make as strong a case as saying the great all powerful spaghetti monster came to Earth and sneezed humans out of one of its nostrils.
     
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    #39
    Source for this?
     
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    #40
    Yes finally you ara awakining, seing that you can say the same thing to and still be as valid, cause evolution and intelligent design can not be proven, intelligent design seems far fetched in todays society, evolution always changes and contradicts itself.
     
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