Does a corporation have a right...

Discussion in 'Legal Issues' started by Davey Crocket, May 11, 2007.

  1. #1
    Lets say a corporation is called "fruit stores INC."
    Now they have an eccommerce store called bunchofapples.com
    Is it legal for me to open up a store and sell the exact same things and call it bunch-of-apples.com
    Do they have legal right to the name "bunchofapples"?
     
    Davey Crocket, May 11, 2007 IP
  2. INV

    INV Peon

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    Yeah, if you become big expect some legal problems. It would only make sense.
     
    INV, May 11, 2007 IP
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #3
    If they don't have a trademark on the domain name, and it is a common usage of words, then you would have no problems.

    Of course, it is hard to tell with your made up examples how close or infringing the name might be. Without the actual words and sites in question, any advice you get is going to be pretty worthless.... although most advice on DP legal issues is pretty worthless anyway.
     
    browntwn, May 11, 2007 IP
  4. Dave Zan

    Dave Zan Well-Known Member

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    #4
    Ain't that the truth.

    If someone is using a term or terms in commerce, it might not be wise to use
    a similar one in a similar capacity.
     
    Dave Zan, May 11, 2007 IP
  5. glasglow

    glasglow Active Member

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    I would agree with this.. even if it's not common usages of words.. domain names themselves are not protected all that strictly by any inforcement agency.. how many domains exist with the term "adsense" or "nike" in them. If they were able to forcefully remove these users from registerring all domains that included their name in it, I'm sure these corporate giants would move forward to do so. There are many cases they have tried, and failed, especially in the international arena. So I'm sure this little bunch of apples company would have little to no clout to actually stop you from using the domain. It would probably take them 10 years to figure out you are using it anyway.
     
    glasglow, May 26, 2007 IP
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    It would make sense in my opinion to just create your own name rather than spawn confusion by using something similar.

    Would it cause you legal problems? Who knows.

    It doesn't have to be legally problematic to get sued. They can take you to court and cost you quite a bit of cash even if you are wrong- it's not really worth it IMO.
     
    pc-monkey, May 26, 2007 IP
  7. marketjunction

    marketjunction Well-Known Member

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    I think the bigger question is: why don't you just use a different name?

    I mean a retard 4-year-old could think up at least one other name. I'm sure you (or whomever) could too.

    Either way, consult a real lawyer.
     
    marketjunction, May 26, 2007 IP
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    mjewel Prominent Member

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    First usage establishes rights. Adding hyphens does not get around trademark infringement. This would be a clear case of trademark infringement. Use another name if you want to avoid legal problems.
     
    mjewel, May 26, 2007 IP
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    The problem is that the trademark is already established by actively using and conducting business through that domain.
     
    ReadyToGo, May 27, 2007 IP
  10. slinky

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    While they are just English words it is clear that such a name in connection with a supermarket can be unique and ideal as indicating a place of origin. What's wrong with bunchoforanges? If you're deliberately using that name to trade off that company's traffic then do the math.
     
    slinky, May 30, 2007 IP
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    Interlectual property rights law is exceptionally complicated, especially on the net where you have international considerations.

    Irrespective of trademarks with these kinds of things you also need to look at intentions. Are you attempting passing off - ie making people think you are one and the same company and therefore you gain sales at their expense. General considerations are geographic area for customer base, type of trade etc. If one company sold apple trees in Hong Kong and the other is a USA based supermarket there is unlikely to be an issue on passing off but if both are UK based green grocers then almost certainly there will be an issue for one of the companies.

    With my previous employers we had a team of people that did nothing but pursue people that had registered domains that either infringed our trademarks, had common miss spellings, were punctuated versions etc. Most simply had to had over the domain to us, those that fought got legal costs added to the case.
     
    AstarothSolutions, May 31, 2007 IP