So they are going to smuggle a nuke by boat? Wouldn't be easier to just check all the boats for nukes rather then nuking a country? I'm sure it would be much cheaper then an actual war.
That's one option which they have. Please, be serious. They aren't going to check in with customs. Look at our experience with the War on Drugs. We can't stop, or significantly slow, the smuggling of marijuana into this country. Marijuana is massive and comparatively cheap for it's volume. Stopping every boat is a physical impossibility, because we don't know about a huge number of boats. Slipping one, two, or a few dozen into the U.S. is relatively easy. And... please continue to think this through. When we stop a drug boat, all they can do is jettison the drugs -- if they have time. When we stop a nuke boat, all they need to do is detonate the bomb. Setting off a nuclear bomb a few miles offshore does not represent a significant gain for us. In summary, last-moment interdiction is not only tricky and unreliable, but it also does not achieve the desired goals.
And we have an even greater influence on the Chinese economy. China isn't going to commit national suicide over a bunch of sheet heads. The Chinese government is patient. They will suffer through the temporary fuel shortages and keep on trucking. China is, right now, in a very precarious position. If they start trouble with the US they not only face a superior military, they also destroy their largest trading relationship and all of that money they have invested in the United States is confiscated. Suddenly, they are thrown 50 years into the past -- on day one of the war. No, China is not as stupid as some might hope. We can, economically speaking, survive a major war quite well. We've done it in the past and we know how to do it.
They hold like 900 billion in US cash, they can easily make the dollar dip at will and there is nothing we could do to stop them What are we going to do stop buying stuff from them? We don't make anything anymore, they make all our stuff for us. Our stores would be empty, walmarts would get looted in the shortages. Who is going to loan us money to fight the war with, if the dollar is tanking?
Think that through ferret. Where is that "cash"? Do you really believe that it is M0 sitting in a big box in China? Oh no! The horror! You are aware, of course, that we are currently following a weak dollar fiscal policy. Right now, we are working very hard to keep the dollar down. If we stop, the dollar bounces up. In effect, we can reverse any damage the Chinese might do -- simply by stopping our current efforts. Oh no! We'll be forced to live without cheap Chinese crap for awhile. The horror of it all! Face the facts -- the Chinese need us more than we need them. They aren't going to commit national suicide over a bunch of out-of-control sheet heads. The Chinese aren't militant Islamists. The Chinese are atheists who have had their own trouble with Islamic terrorism in their Western provinces. We are quite able to finance this war ourselves, just as we did WWII.
Do you really think we can just freeze the assets of another super power? like comptuer chips? Really? then why are borrowing from the chinese to pay for our current war?
That's one of the many things that happens when nations go to war. And that is what you are suggesting. You are suggesting that China will declare war on the U.S. because the U.S. goes to war with Iran. This in itself is silly, as that is not in any way in the best interests of China. China doesn't care about Iran -- China cares about China. Thinking of it this way may help you understand: Imagine that you are China. Two of your trading partners are going to war: The U.S. and Iran. You have to back one. Would you back the military weak parter with whom you do $8B a year in business or the militarily strong partner with whom you do $287B a year in business? The Chinese are not stupid. Oh no! I'll have to wait to upgrade my old slow 3.0Ghz CPU until U.S. production ramps up again. We borrow money from China because it's cheap. They invest it with us because they have a good return here. Money is fluid, it always finds the path of least resistance.
No I am suggesting that china will put a little pressue on us economically and the people in charge won't go to war with Iran because its not worth it China needs oil , just like us . Look how much we have sunk our military into ensuring the oil keeps coming yeah thats all it would effect is your cpu, maybe in your little kid world of only you that matters, but not in the real world
Hell man, you need some perspective. Let's see... which is more "pressure": 1. The Chinese saying "We be vewy unhappy wif you" -- when they can't do anything about it without harming themselves much more than us. 2. The Iranians hitting us with either nuclear blackmail or nuclear attacks or both? Yeah...
There's not even a war with Iran and already ferret is raising the surrender flag! Surrender, at all cost!
please, the Iranians arn't going to attack the most powerful country in the world Stop being so scared of your own shadow Those Mullahs and President "I'm in it for the Jihad" don't want to commit sucide, they want to stay in power When the Soviets got nukes did they attack us? The Iranians would have to ship a nuke on a boat, nukes are big. Ecspeically a basic one they would be building if they could. They giger counters in ports now, what are they going to do here is special radioactive container delivery to DC, from Iran? There is mass money in running drugs, and they use little fast boats going short distances ship to ship or ship to shore. Not the same as shipping a huge bomb from all the way across the atlantic
Why would you? You have a long history of supporting these types of people. Besides, in your twisted mind, America deserves to be attacked.
GTech, the desperation of defending miserable failures like Bush is starting to really take it's toll on you the last couple of days. Take a few days off in the P&R forum please, I am saying this for the good of your own health. As the dangerous neocon supporting hawk Bill O'Reilly would say, "I'm looking out for you."
If your head wasn't so far up alex jone's ass, you would have noted I hadn't said anything about Bush. Save your consoling remarks for the terrorist supporters. They are the ones that need it. I'm not like you, my self-esteem is fine
If they are proven guilty then great, that is a big relief to us all. But let us remember the absolute fantasy BS with all them people that were going to blow up planes over the Atlantic even though most of them didn't even have passports and the plot would never have worked anyway. Try thinking "outside of the FOX" every now and then GTech. And stop saying I'm up Jones' arse, I knew Bush was the most dangerous man on this earth long before I had even heard of Alex Jones.
You really need to stop projecting your own feelings onto the Iranians and start understanding their thoughts, feelings, and motivations. A nuke can easily fit on any sailing yacht. What sort of idiot would go to a port, unless their intent was to detonate when that docked? No, they won't dock at a port -- except for private ports. Religion is far more motivating than money. I thought that you knew something about boats? Am I confusing you with someone else?
Iran is not Al Queda, the rulers wouldn't commit sucide by attacking us and the United States isn't going to pre-emptively nuke some third world country because they are "scary"
Well, no one can muster up sympathy for a terrorist like you can. Let us not forget what would have happened if your bud, Richard Reid, wasn't caught.