God's miracles in the Quran.

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  1. kafer

    kafer Peon

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    #101

    You’ll do more justice if you added Judaism and Christianity to your “stupidest and most irrational bits of human culture ever created".
     
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  2. kafer

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    #102
    Yes Waraqa showed his strong support for the husband of his cousin, so what? Does this make Waraqa's support or testimony a divine thing? Did god tell Waraqa that Mohammed was a true prophet.

    The point I’m making is that the prophet Mohammed had access to the holy scriptures knowledge through Waraqa’s teaching for a period of over 10 years. Although Mohammed was illiterate, he was well informed.
     
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    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #103
    so that means that muhammed himself never proclaimed that he himself was a prophet?? :rolleyes:

    So now you follow someone who never even claimed he was a prophet? At least Jesus claimed he was the Son of God...
     
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  4. kafer

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    #104

    Oh yes he did, but only after Waraqah told him so.


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    The problem with the son of god claim of Jesus is that how could anyone take him seriously, especially after his father let him down on the cross. The father never came to his rescue and had actually abandoned him. Well I guess it was all part of the big plan for Jesus to be a sacrifice, a substitute for all sinners (us) and for future sins that have not even been committed yet!.
     
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  5. suitsme

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    #105
    If I only got .25 every time I have been told this or seen a Muslim say this. As if they can see into our brains to know how much we know about Islam. We probably know more about Islam than you people do. We read the Quran and can look at Islam objectively, you can't. What you know is what others have told you.
     
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  6. Louis11

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    #106
    And "you lack in knowledge about [grammar]. A lot!"

    Figures, some insipid response that relates to nothing I have said. It's a well known fact that your precious "prophet" was a horrible person. And to simply divulge further false information to the contrary is utter nonsense. If the origins of your religion are so divine, then why wasn't it concieved until several HUNDRED years after Christianity? Islam is a Knockoff religion :rolleyes:

    * awaits some quotes from the Quran, Muhammad, or some other form of idiotic circular thinking to prove the divinity of Islam.
     
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  7. suitsme

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    #107
    "why wasn't it concieved until several HUNDRED years after Christianity? Islam is a Knockoff religion"

    Islam is a cult that's why.
     
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  8. Louis11

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    #108
    Well said my friend, well said :)

    Did your great Allah also create the Hypertext Control Protocol? :p

    To the rest of you, if you're going to prove that the "miracles" you claim are true then why not do it in a logical fashion. A non-existent thing, cannot be proven by the very thing that doesn't exist. It's called Petitio Principii, or as most know it: circular reasoning.

    You all, obviously have fallen victim to circular reasoning. You can't prove the existence of Allah, Miracles you claim, or the divinity of Muhammad by quoting the Quran or other biased articles or documents. :p
     
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  9. suitsme

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    #109
    The main difference between Islam and Christianity:

    Islam is a religion in which God requires you to send your son to die for him. Christianity is a faith in which God sent his Son to die for you.
     
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    #110
    And thus propaganda begins again, with religion and distraction with all of these verbal contractions, lets ignore the fundamentals of a culture warfare issue, about the state of the world's conditions and welfare, whilst we continue on the path of a continual suicide dare, while we lambaste each other with context that isn't really fair, considering none of it was written by a deity and none of it was written with sanity, no one is right, everyone is wrong, there is no real proof of the world dawn - but now ever closer we entertain our views, until finally we all just simply blame the Jews - but hey there were others before us that chose them to hate, like the Greeks and the Romans, the Egyptians as well, Babylonians? No, they were before all the fate - You'll find in ancient history the culture of war, the useful tool of hate, bigoted throughout by this world's Modern Ape.

    Once you realize you're all just the same, which you won't, that you're all just monkey men who don't accept fate, that all you can do is learn to hate - distract you from the ever increasing rate of peril we exist in - you will all be saved. But I know man, and I know the Ape that lives in you all - everyone is doomed to the final spate of this world's mass destruction - which is your self declared fate.

    You can resume your back and forth bickering bull crap now. No one listens or understands what I say anyways.
     
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  11. kafer

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    #111
    Using your words just replace Islam and put Christianity. Your point will remain valid:

    If the origins of your religion are so divine, then why wasn't it conceived until several HUNDRED years after Jewish prophecy had ended? Christianity is Knockoff religion:rolleyes:
     
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  12. kafer

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    #112
    Cult? Sure all religions are.

    With a small group of followers call it a cult. Expand the group and call it a religion.
     
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    #113
    wrong....Jesus came to fulfil the prophecies...just read the gospels and you will know that...furthermore, Christianity didn't totally change the story. They ADDED onto the story. Christians still use the Hebrew Bible, which is now known as the Old Testament...Islam transformed it all so that muhammed could be popular and so he could get away with marrying a 9 yr old girl when he himself was 53...what a pedophile.
     
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    #114
    Exactly. Islam is the propoganda machine created by Muhammed to benefit himself. Many of the stories are strikingly similar to Christianity, however they have in some way or another been interjected with mentions of Muhammed himself.
     
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  15. suitsme

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    #115
    The New Testament is
    CONTAINED
    in the Old Testament.
    The Old Testament is
    EXPLAINED
    in the New Testament.
    The New Testament is
    CONECEALED
    in the Old Testament.
    The Old Testament is
    REVEALED
    in the New Testament.
    The New Testament
    AUTHENTICATES
    the Old Testament.
    The Old Testament
    ANTICIPATES
    The New Testament.
    The New Testament
    LIES HIDDEN
    in the Old Testament.
    The Old Testament
    LIES OPEN
    in the New Testament.
    The Old Testament
    PREDICTS
    a Person.
    The New Testament
    PRESENTS
    that Person!
     
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    #116
    There was no Prophet before Muhammad (PBUH) who said that he was the LAST AND FINAL Prophet!

    Also, Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) was prophecised by Abraham (PBUH).

    The teachings of Jesus (PBUH) were widely misunderstood and he was NOT crucified.

    The Quran is also known as the Last Testament.
     
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    #117
    You have been brainwashed. Islam is a cult.
     
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    #118
    You have all been brainwashed. Religion is a Cult.
     
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  19. sami

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    #119
    Find me one authenticated source that says that :rolleyes: . You have got
    good imagination skills. I think you are eligible to write some wonderful movies.;)
     
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    #120
    That's what you say.

    The Jews don't use the New Testament.
    The Jews don't believe in the prophecy of Jesus.
    To them Jesus is nothing but an imposter.
    According to them the Torah cannot be replaced, added or changed Deut. 4:2 ("Do not add to what I command you and do not subtract from it, but keep the commands of the LORD your God that I give you).

    In the same way you don’t believe in Islam the Jews don’t believe in Christianity.

    Please don’t bombard me with quotes from the Gospel and try to interpret them to mean the fulfillment of the messianic prophecies. The Jews don’t agree on your interpretation. Full Stop;)
     
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