So your solution for Nazi Germany would have been to send a patrol officer to give Adolf Hitler a ticket for speeding through France?
Bush and his team said many things about Iraq and today, we know it's all lies to justify their aim to conquer Iraq. They invaded Afghanistan to capture Osama and terrorists. Did they really go for it? It was easy to capture Saddam but think about the Serb's criminal of war. Where are they? First, let us ask who is Osama and who created him? Why was he created and for what purpose? Why did the turn against US?
I support your desperate call for looking after Darfur. The infamous arabic horsemen need to be wiped out even they use cars today. Africa is a very negelected region in regards of humanity. Most people don't even know and realize that Africa is controled by the islamic arabs for hundreds of years. We all need to stand up against that too.
That is a complete untrue piece of propaganda. And to remove the Taliban, who allowed terrorist camps to exist. What in the hell are you talking about? It was quite difficult to capture Saddam. Most of the Serbian was criminals are in prison or dead. One, Osama's parents created Osama. Two, Osama was never "for" the U.S. That is a bizarre urban legend spread by some very confused people.
yeah there is a foreign enemy and most of recent foregin policies have help strengthen them Al Qaeda is stoked we are in Iraq, it has been their biggest recuitment tool Attack Iran would further swell their ranks, and gain them even more supporters, turning even more moderates against us. It's childish tough guy fantasy that we can control the world with threats of nuking people. A pre-emptive nuke strike on 3rd world country who has not attacked us would turn the whole world against us. In fact what would be the difference between us and them if we start nuking people, becasue we are scared of them I know some of you are stupid enough to think that the rest of world doesn't matter, but believe me the smart people in charge take it into consideration
The missile defense program that the Democrats keep trying to have scrapped? Seriously though, missile defense works against... missiles! The Iranians are quite unlikely to use missiles as a nuclear delivery mechanism. They are much more likely to smuggle their nuclear weapons in boats. Yes, and even if we managed to get 90% of them, which would get you an A in grade school, we would still fail. The war in Iraq is a small part of a larger effort. What you are saying is akin to saying "The Battle of Gettysburg hasn't solved anything, it has hurt us (the US) more than anything." Yes, and by that time you are still attacked. If we lose New York, D.C., Los Angeles, Houston, and San Francisco, is nuking Iran going to make it all better? No... But really, it's not the actual Iranian attack that is the major concern. It is the decades of nuclear blackmail which is the more immediate concern. Do you like the idea of U.S. foreign policy being set in Tehran? Probably because no one in Sudan has nuclear weapons, duh. I do agree that I would like to see us, perhaps with help from NATO or even the morons at the UN, doing something to reduce the violence in Sudan. Did screaming make you feel better?
Why not deal with the problem at home first? Let's start killing all the Arabs that are in USA since they are all potential suicide bombers and the government should kill their children too since they can grow up and try to revenge their parents. Start with cleaning in USA before start killing people from other countries that can possibly come to USA. You are such a moron, always trying desperately to be a big man and taking about nuking others while in reality you are just a big mouth sissy hiding under your bed and have no idea what you are talking about. Talking about killing others doesn't make you a big man, it just shows what a miserable coward you are.
what about your posts? That has been a huge recruitment tool as well... yet Iran threatens to wipe israel and the US off the world repeatedly....someone needs to tell your bud amadenaJIHAD to shut up... who is scared of Iran? Not anyone I know... yes, AGS and Gworld are that stupid...but you shouldn't talk so bad about your buds...and GWB takes that into consideration all the time, which is why he talks so simply, in terms they and you can understand.
I can't believe how many crazy bastards are advocating the use of nukes in this thread. You have to think a bit more about the implications that would have on the whole world. Wake up you hawkish sheeple.
The difference, AGS, is that we have thought about it, while you are still waiting for someone to think about it for you. Thinking is everyones responsibility. In real life you can't let Alex Jones do your homework for you.
You ought to try thinking on your own for a minute like Will suggests. Never mind the war AGS, get over the initial fear of your beloved president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad being hurt for a minute & have a think about what the implications of not going to war with Iran would be & the implications that a nuclear Iran would have on the whole world. We know you admire the president of Iran Mahmoud Ahmadinejad for his anti-US attitude as you openly admit (i don't know why though as you claim your not anti-US )
looking your moronic posts, it is obvious that it doesn't matter how much you try to think, you can't.
I do my own thinking mate, don't need anyone else to do that for me, unlike you and your miserable parroted posts. I still hold you to the worst post ever in this forum for your "nuke" blurb. I think GT and d16man are bad, I have TWO PACKS on ignore because he's completely insane but the more I think about it the more I think you could be worse than all 3 of them put together.
Sure that YOU, AGS and others are active supporter of this J. Grant Swank, Jr. (ArriveNet Editorials - May 04, 2007) – â€These killers are known as “paintball jihadists†in that they practice in paintball game style what they have planned for America’s streets. They are already training others in “urban combat†using paintball guns. They will engage in paramilitary-style training right under our noses, and lie about it to our faces. They are protected, in some cases, by the religious Imams, some who even encourage or schedule such outings.†Zealot Muslims now plan to bathe America’s streets with gunfire just as is going on in Iraq, Afghanistan, Sudan, Darfur and so forth. Once these Allah devotees get hold, they don’t stop. Street fighting never ends. Further, these fighters are more than willing to sacrifice their own bodies and those of their families and neighbors in order to see through Islam World Rule. Douglas J. Hagmann, Director, Northeast Intelligence Network, reports that American officials already know of the process. However, both government and media are muffling detail. Jihad will come to the United States due to “Muslim men inside the U.S., (the latter) adhering to the Islamist ideology of jihad, preparing for war on the streets of America. “The ‘insider’ reports are very troubling and are purposely being downplayed by official sources and go largely unreported in the media. “One case, however, can serve as an example of what is taking place all across the U.S. involving the procurement and disbursement of weapons to Muslim ‘jihadists.’ On Tuesday, May 2, 2007, a federal indictment was unsealed in the U.S. federal court in St. Louis naming eight Islamic men as defendants in a case involving the buying, selling or hiding of automatic weapons, an anti-personnel mine and other explosives. “The case originated with the arrest of Mousa M. ABUELAWI, 22, of Creve Coeur, MO on December 29, 2006. He was charged with three counts of illegal possession or distribution of a machine gun and conspiracy to violate machine gun statutes. A superseding indictment unsealed yesterday, charges ABUELAWI and seven others with machine gun charges and charges of conspiracy, lying to the FBI and other firearms violations. “The other seven defendants identified in the indictment are identified as: Thaer Abde SUMAD, 23, of Florissant, MO, Abdikarin WARSAME, 28, Charley M. HUNT Jr., 45, Darnell T. THORNTON, 25, and Hussein Ali NURE, 29, all from Jennings, MO, Mohamed JUDEH, 20, of Maryland Heights and Otha L. BAKER, 20, of St. Louis. If found guilty of the charges, the men face 5-10 years in prison.†Jihadists are stockpiling weaponry and explosives via secret cells. Mosque leaders are cooperating with them. “In the case of ABUELAWI and the other seven defendants, the men met at gas stations located in north St. Louis between August 2006 and January 2007 to buy or transfer automatic weapons and explosives. In the original documents charging Abuelawi, Sumad is quoted in a meeting with ABUELAWI and a government informer as saying that ‘he wants to buy as many explosives as possible because, “we’re going to war.â€â€˜â€ Visit http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/ Northeast Intelligence Network Defendant Thaer Abde SUMAD, 23 - The one who said "we're going to war!"
ferret, this is prima facie ridiculous on two counts: The first is historical. This argument was used to prove that WWI could not happen. But WWI did happen. It was flawed thinking then and it is flawed thinking now. The second is more statistical in nature. I will quote the President of Pakistan and see if you can understand where your thinking has gone wrong on the second point: "Today we are the poorest, the most illiterate, the most backward, the most unhealthy, the most un-enlightened, the most deprived, and the weakest of all the human race." President Musharraf , Pakistan, 2002. "While the collective Gross National Product of the all Muslim countries stands at $1,200bn, that of Germany alone is $2,500bn and that of Japan $5,500bn." You seem like a smart enough fellow, please use the brains that you have and think before you post. I am sure that I am not the only person here who would enjoy some intelligent political discourse with you, but you're going to have to step up a bit.
Perhaps they would use boats, but they would most likely strike Israel first using missiles. I imagine US assets in the area would also be attacked. 100% is a technical impossibility even under perfectly controlled situations. There is no perfect system. There wouldnt be an economy left and about 1/4th of the US population would be dead or dying from such an attack, so yes, assuming we blasted Iran into a nuclear holocaust for wiping 1/4th of the US population off the map, I would feel better as a tax payer and as an American. The point is, if someone tried such an attack and killed that many people it would offset the world economy and potentially cause a global depression. Dollars are accepted virtually everywhere. Can you say the same for Yen? Yuan? Ruble? Peso? etc. I would give my life for my country so yes, if someone launched a nuclear attack against it, I would take pleasure in their emminent destruction. Sometimes. In all actuallity, Darfur keeps getting swept under the proverbial UN/NATO rug. The UN and NATO have become about as relevant as the League of Nations. Tehran is backing what Iraq helped to prove: The UN is just for show and has no real power because none of the countries can agree on anything. Do you think if France or Russia was attacked today that they would still have the same attitude they had towards the US invasion of Iraq? No. France and Russia didnt want anything to do with the conflict because they were violating UN sanctions by supplying weapons and services to Iran in violation of the Oil for Food programs.
Iran is a major oil supplier or both China and the EU If china was going to attack Saudia Arabia, do you think we would let them? China has a huge influence on our economy, they hold a huge amount of our currency, and they are the second biggest lender to the US If they won't lend us money how will you wage a war? We had to borrow from them to invade Iraq. If we ignore them borrow from someone else and attack Iran, what will happen if they dump all the dollars they hold in for Euros? I guess on the upside the massive depression that would fall over the US would probably increase military recruitment.