PR and search engine rank

Discussion in 'Google' started by biztechz, May 8, 2007.

  1. #1
    Does PR has anything to do with your searhc engine ranking?
    I mean if i have 2 websites all pertaining to the same keywords.And one has PR2 and the other PR5, is the Pr 5 likely to have a good search engine ranking that the Pr2 for the same keyword?

    Please help.Thanks
     
    biztechz, May 8, 2007 IP
  2. Pedro Monteiro

    Pedro Monteiro Well-Known Member

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    #2
    Hello there.

    Search Engine Ranking certainly has everything to do with Page Rank.

    The higher the page rank, the most likely your site will rank for a given keyword.

    However, Page Rank is just one more factor among many others.
     
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  3. DannyBly

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    Yes, it certainly does -
     
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  4. trichnosis

    trichnosis Prominent Member

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    page rank is the result of your backlinks. it's a number which is calculated with a formula. the variables of the formula is your backlinks.

    and the backlinks are main criteria on serp:)
     
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  5. mdvaden

    mdvaden Active Member

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    And that's why we commonly see a #2 in the top slot and a #7 on top of page two?

    I'd say they are related more than "hand in hand". That sounds a little too certain.

    I've written that PageRank would best be said to express a level of "importance" to a site, but not indicate its "relevance".

    I've seen less important sites with far greater content and relevance, stomp-down sites with similar but less content, that were of greater importance.

    So my vote is for related, but not quite hand in hand or parallel.

    If the content were of similar value and volume, then the higher PR page "stands a chance". But we have to be honest here that the word "chance" is appropriate to use.

    I mean, how many SEOs do you know - even if yourself - who have worked you a$$ off in the past, wondering why your high PR site just wasn't cutting the mustard many times?
     
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  6. biztechz

    biztechz Active Member

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    Thanks guys, the infos really helped :)
     
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  7. Zerosleep

    Zerosleep Established User

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    yea PR5 website have more Backlinks to its has got Higher Page Rank and so it will rank higher in SE's for the same keywords than PR2 :D
     
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  8. UsedCarsOnly

    UsedCarsOnly Peon

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    #8
    Greetings -

    New to the forum -

    Must disagree in part. :eek:



    I believe that PR doesn't necessarily have an effect on the rankings, but because PR and rankings have similar and sometimes duplicate methods of calculation, it definitely seems like they are connected.

    Part of PR is determined by BLs. Part of rankings are determined by BLs.

    If you take a page with excellent PR and put content, tags, etc, that relate the page to "San Diego Used Cars" it will rank for that term. Still, because the links associated with it that gave it such a high PR are not autotive related, it won't be ranked higher than other sites with similar content and lower PR.

    In the search for San Diego Used Cars, Yahoo Autos pops up at #3 with a PR5, which is great, but it doesn't beat sellmycar.com with a PR 2.

    There are tons of other examples, but I think it is misleading to say that PR has a lot to do with rankings. The same factors contribute to both. It's like saying having a nice car helps you get a nice house. One doesn't have an actual effect on the other, but on the surface it may seem true. Many people with nice cars have nice houses and visa versa. In reality having more money leads to both, but they aren't necessarily linked (no pun intended).
     
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    Forgot to mention -- I'm not saying it has NO effect like many SEO purists. A few years ago, it meant a ton. Now, I believe that it is more of a tiebreaker than anything else. In other words, it contributes, but as such a small factor that it isn't worth the focus that many place on it.
     
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  10. SEO Services

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    Yes,of course.
     
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  11. weblaunch

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    PR is more like a tie-breaker, given all else are equal.
     
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  12. Janna122003

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    Pr has no effect on your rankings. Higher PR doesn't mean that you will have better rankings for your targeted keywords. Pr was based on quality links but not on quantity.
     
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  13. mdvaden

    mdvaden Active Member

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    What's your feeling or knowledge about the age of a site. I know of a couple that are 10 years old that rank very well for my trade, with maybe 7 backlinks. The sites are up to 12 years old.

    Anybody else want to chime in on site's age for PR?
     
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  14. minimumrage

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    Do any search for anything and you will always see lower PR sites rank higher for certain terms than higher PR sites. Think about it:

    If I have a pr 7 site about electronics and just happen to have a short post about a particular video game, but somebody else has a PR 3 site dedicated to that particlular video game - which site do you think will come up higher? Page Rank is unrelated to SERP's. SERP's are determined by relevance, not the perceived importance of a site that might be completely or mostly unrelated to your search terms.
     
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  15. xenyo

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    Given that its the same site and exact same weighting of the inbound link for the keyword. I would say that theres a good chance that the site with a higher actual PageRank will be above the lower.

    However, as the chances of having the exact same weighting of inbounds for the keywords are unlikely the question is a bit confusing and meaningless as the comparision will need to be for 2 sites with exactly the same content.
     
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    Basically they are interrelated. If you have higher ranking on SERP then you are likely to get more visitors which affects PR. Well like everyone discussed backlinks play major role for PR and so also SERP ;)
     
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  17. mhmdkhamis

    mhmdkhamis Well-Known Member

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    my site after grt high pr drob in serps
     
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  18. mdvaden

    mdvaden Active Member

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    I'm so glad to hear you post that.

    Not the drop.

    But every time I read similar to what you say, it makes me feel better about what I've been saying lately.

    Basically, I feel that high PR is a bit like gambling.

    If you have very high PageRank, maybe it shows more skill, but its a bit like being a higher level of gambler. You can be on the Television gambling championship shows, but you have a good chance of losing and no guarantee of winning.
     
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    Yes , Search engine does depends on PR, would say how well your site is optimized ... no wonder webmaster are all after PR.
     
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  20. mhmdkhamis

    mhmdkhamis Well-Known Member

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    thats isnt rules from google

    the main reason for my drob in serps

    lost mny pages which was stored in google about 12000 page

    i hope it back again :D
     
    mhmdkhamis, May 9, 2007 IP