Q. Do Muslims believe in the virgin birth of Jesus?

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  1. d16man

    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #161
    Billions of people around the world believe, yet you don't....Go look at the Jewish Historian Flavious Josephus, and then we can argue this some more.
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #162
    As it is shown here, most people don't even know what they believe in. :rolleyes: Mass hysteria is not a proof for something. ;)

    Why don't you tell us if Flavius Josephus has any proof for Jesus existence and what is it? :rolleyes:
     
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    #163
    Christ took ous sins upon him, he died for them. the bible says the wages of sin is death (meaning hell).
    so Christ actually had to go to hell, and the presence of God is not in hell.
    since Christ lived a life totally connected with God the the second he got seperated from God he knew it.

    so it has nothing to do with the phsyical part of Christ being crucified.


    And to Gworld, your showing your stupidity quite blatenly on this topic.
    Stop making everything go around in circles and answer a question.
     
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  4. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #164
    Anyone who dares to post such stupid BS in public forum about going to hell and coming back, shouldn't call anyone retarded. :rolleyes:

    What is the question? How to prove a fantasy only exists in the mind of some morons and not in reality? Don't you think if God went to all the troubles to make a women pregnant; God would also make it a little bit more noticeable so someone in that time would notice this "son" existence? :rolleyes:
     
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    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #165
    Remember< Jesus was also a man and he knew what's coming up. He loved his disciples so much that he even prayed to his father. "You have the power and if you want you can take this cup away from me" - also knowing the will of his father, he finished, "Your will shall be done".

    He experienced his crucification as a man and not as God and after three days he rose up to be God and with him (the oneness shines through). - This why he said "why have you forsaken me" - He demonstrated even on the cross his love for the people.

    He became man to take away our sins by paying with his blood, stripes and wounds.
     
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  6. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #166
    He's confusing it with the "playboy bunnies" and brainwashed by Hefner.:D Can someone help him?
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #167
    Even IF we accept the existence of Jesus, doesn't mental disorder also explain those sentences? Even today, there are many patients in different mental institution that believe they are God. :rolleyes:
     
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    EliteFlyers_com Active Member

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    #168
    yes Christ went to hell and was raised from the dead ( i dont think raising the dead would be too much of a problem for the Creator )

    Well it seemd you have God all figured out huh?
    it seems you know how God should do everything.
    HEY! maybe youre God! :eek: :rolleyes:
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #169
    It is not about God, it is about people like you who believe anything that their preacher tells them without a question or an independent thought. ;)
     
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  10. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #170
    Jealous of the bunnies and realizing that is not an invention of the tussis from Hefner and playboy makes you quite a schizo, eh?

    Even IF we accept the existence of Jesus by gworld - do we smell a change? - or is it just a change of strategy, because he knows deep inside himself that Jesus can't be denied? A big doubt.
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #171
    That is funny coming from secret agent Arnie, who passes secret notes to secret agents of NSA that have secret guns and let you ride in their secret cars. :rolleyes:

    No wonder you believe in Jesus too. :D
     
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    #172
    well as a matter of fact, ive studied many religions
    (its my fav thing to do)
    and i have found Christianity to be the only one that holds its ground.
    All the others including islam, buddism, mormonism, jehovah's witnesses, satanism, wiccan ... they dont have anything to stand on.
    so no im not someone who just listens to the preacher and does whatever they say, i like to study it out for myself:eek: crazy i know
     
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    #173
    Even if this was true which I hardly doubt, obviously you lack the mental capacity to process what you claim to study. :D
     
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    #174
    yeah thanks
    well apparently you lack the mental capacity to study the Bible since you seem to know nothing about it.:p
    im not saying i know everything about every religion or even close. Are you saying you do? have you ever studied religion gworld?
     
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    #175
    Josephus is considered one of the greatest history theologians of all time, and yes, he mentions Jesus on several occasions. But not only that...if it weren't for Josephus we would not know alot of the history of the Jewish people that happened in the years after Jesus was crucified.
     
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    #176
    tata-tata-tataa ... Psst he's in a doubting process already.

    Now he needs to adjust his behaviour; He's some serious mental problems. Observing this guy since he appeared here the first time, out of lonleyness, no friends and family he's getting more and more agressive.

    Remember, people who can't get attention looking desperately for negative attention, every nonsense serves their aim to achieve this goal, not realizing how far the go astray from common sense.

    Why do I say that? Because I believe that he can't be as stupid as he shows us.
     
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    #177
    I have studied religion but never could believe in the mass hysteria and the fantasy even when I was a child, let alone as an adult. :D
     
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    #178
    If you are a religious person then you should also be truthful, so can you tell us if suffer or have suffered from mental problems or not? :rolleyes:
     
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    #179
    what is it that you cant believe about Chirstianity. what other religions did you study? and did you actually study the religion or the ppl in the religion?
     
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  20. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #180
    You wouldn't say that about islam, would you?

    Who are "us?" Are you part of something bigger than the voices in your head?
     
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