supplemental index

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by andre75, May 7, 2007.

  1. #1
    WTH, I am seing a relatively large percentage of a site being stuck in supplemental index.
    Funny thing, all of it is original content.
    Besides the usual (making Headers and Names unique) does it help to throw some links at the page?
     
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    dhruv37 Well-Known Member

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    Pls try to get some links to inner pages of your site and make sure you have unique title and meta for each pages.

    Getting Deep Links will help you lot.
     
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    venetsian Well-Known Member

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    Yep .. deep links will definately get you out of the supplementals ...

    Cheers,

    Venetsian
     
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    Thanks guys, thats what I was thinking.
    Since I am talking about Image Gallery Pages, it would be somewhat difficult to point external links to each of them. Would adding some more text and making the Titles more unique help too?
    I think the bot has very little to go by (the theme of the site is the largest portion on those pages).
     
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    venetsian Well-Known Member

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    make sure each page has at leas 70% unique text and the rest is the static content (menu, nav, links etc) that would help also, but links are the best way ...

    Cheers,

    Venetsian
     
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    andre75 Peon

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    Sometimes I am tired of Google. My wifes website is almost entirely supplemental and its all unique and well written content. She doesn't do much in terms of link building, so that confirms what you say.
    So its still true then: Good content will easily be outranked by crap with tons of links. Sounds very 1999 to me.
    If I wouldn't believe that they are actually trying to improve that, I would have thrown up some auto generated sites and thrown a million spam links on them and then I would laugh at a webmaster who actually writes stuff himself.
    Thanks again for your answer.
     
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    venetsian Well-Known Member

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    More links = more votes for the quality of your website so if you have the best content and no links its pretty much worthless ... The best rules is the same time you spend on content writing the same amount of time you have to spend on link building .. if you follow that rule you'll be ok ...

    The problem is that some SEOs do more link building than content building and the new Google algorithm prevents link spam by declaring that page as "stale" and ranks it lower than pages with fresh content and less links ...

    Cheers,

    Venetsian.
     
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    guidyy Active Member

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    #8
    last time i made a post like this in another forum, I've been crucified.
    who touch google dies is rather common on webmaster forums.
    Google's "we dont do evil, we are the devil" algo is actually the worst thing it's around on the internet.
    AFAIK, they are trying to make it better, but so far, they are closing the gate when the cows already escaped.
    And now I have a gazillion more enemies.
     
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    Hi

    Sorry for this Q but i am still doubt what are deep links ?

    Thanks
     
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  10. andre75

    andre75 Peon

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    A link not to the front page of your site but to an inner page.
     
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    OH ! yeah

    Thanks
     
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    andre75 Peon

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    #12
    The search query for supplemental:
    site:www.yourdomain.com ***
    doesn't seem to work anymore. It returns the same as:
    site:www.yourdomain.com

    Does anyone know how to search for all pages that are supplemental?

    EDIT: Nevermind, I figured it out.
     
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    Ardrigh Peon

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    #13
    I don't agree with this. And besides, you need to combine both link building campaign and content creation and development so as to achieve a higher status in search engine. Content is very important. If you have a million links pointing to your site and your site doesn't have a "real" content, i doubt your site will gain good status in SE...
     
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    Well, I have fate that people on DP are a bit more mature.
    There are plenty of people ranting about this anyways:
    http://www.traffick.com/2006/09/supplemental-index-gone-wild.asp
     
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    andre75 Peon

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    #15
    That was a rant and not really meant to be taken too seriously. But honestly, sometimes I wonder about the SERPS and how many bad results I can find there, while I can still pull better results from position 300 or higher.
    The quality of the search results is really questionable at this point and I see no reason for having two indexes. What is the benefit? If you don't want to rank a page, put it way down on the SERPS, so the person who owns it just thinks:
    "Oh well, gotta optimize a little".
    Having a supplemental index is like saying that these pages don't deserve to rank which makes everyone who wrote these pages (yes wrote not scraped) feel really bad, especially when they see scraped pages ranking better.
    I fail to see the entire point of the Supplemental index, except to tell people that their stuff is sh*t.

    Well, again the whole thing about throwing a million links at crap wasn't to be taken seriously. It was a rant.

    The bottom line is this: Someone can scrape / copy / copyedit my content and outrank me for my own stuff, if they bolt it on to some blog posts of theirs or some auto generated BS, because it is unique. Yes, you can auto-generate unique content, no problem. It just isn't readable (for humans).
     
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    bushib Banned

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    venetsian Well-Known Member

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    #17
    Thanks for sharing the command I didin't know that :)

    cheers,

    Venetsian.
     
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    #18
    actually it goes like this:

    site:yourdomain.com *** -jdfkljdlkfjldj

    (-fkdjfkfd some random thing)

    Not sure if -view is accurate, since I might have the word view on my page
     
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    To avoid the supplementation, you have to get unique title, you can do it by adding your domain in the title....
     
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    Thanks for the link. Good info.

    That command is not working for me: it's listing many pages not marked as supplemental.
     
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