The Evidence is in: This Ron Guy is Crazy

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  1. Briant

    Briant Peon

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    #21
    As well they should be considering the imperialist bent of many US leaders.
     
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    #22
    He gets this "we need another investigation" from the truthers. Read his statements in the regard. It uses all the code necessary that tells you he believes in the conspiracy. One doesn't have to outright say it to know what they are talking about. It simply doesn't need to be explained. It's self evident.

    I don't disagree with Paul on everything. That's not the point. His trutherism makes him unacceptable as a candidate. A candidate can be perfect otherwise, but evidence of trutherism is an immediate disqualification.
     
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    #23
    I'm right behind him too mate, he talks such a lot of sense.
    As I have said before he is Americas last remaining hope.

    Of course the major problem is that he cares too much about the American people so he has not got a cat in hells chance of ever being President.

    The corrupt Bush-Clinton cabal have at least another 9 1/2 years of ruining the world (1 and a half years of Bush remaining, followed by 2 terms of Clinton after.)

    As I keep on saying, things certainly are not going to get any better for quite some time.
     
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    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #24
    Who's being robbed? Venezuelans are getting jobs; people there are getting rich and a percentage of what is drilled as well. Just keep justifying theft in Venezuela; while promoting a candidate who stands against it. It really makes a lot of sense.

    Too bad the illuminati lizard people already told you that Hillary was gonna win. Right? Sucks to support someone you know is destined to lose. Self-hate, much?
     
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    Jackuul Well-Known Member

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    #25
    I support Ron Paul because he's insane. I like insane people.

    Also the fact I have always held strict constructionist views of the government. Cut income tax out and give us a sales tax system. This way consumers can save by less consumption - however with the added income they keep they will consume more. It balances out in the end, and besides - I made an entire portfolio for one of my classes about the process of switching to a sales tax, the benefits of a sales tax only system, and the myth busting of all those income-tax-supporting whores who think that a sales tax system will crush the economy because everything will be 'more expensive'.

    Without the income tax cut out it balances out the sales tax increase because people keep the cash they earn, hold more in their pockets, and thus be inclined to spend more. Not to mention prices will adjust since less will be taken out for taxes, thus balancing that out.

    The government will make more money in the long run.
     
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  6. Briant

    Briant Peon

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    #26
    I imagine he doesn't want foreign interests controlling his nation's economy.

    http://www.pinr.com/report.php?ac=view_report&report_id=492&language_id=1
     
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    #27
    I think you guys should not attack the messenger. Attack the message if you want. Irrespectively of whether or not Paul is a conspiracy nut, you have just elected a guy who said God told him to go to war. You had 3 guys in the conservative debate saying they don't believe evolution.

    I think you have more problems in your hands right now, than Paul's "truthism", like for instance, the fact that ALL candidates believe in religious and socialist fairy tales.
     
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    #28
    What are you talking about lizards for mate, you got a lizard fetish?

    It is so so simple to work out that as the US has been run by either a Bush or a Clinton since 1981 the corruption and destruction will continue completely unabated.

    Also, and just for absolute confirmation that Hillary is next she has also been to Bilderberg meetings. ;)

    Figuring out how these lying bastards operate is not too difficult providing that you "Think outside of the FOX" mate. :)
     
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    #29
    Well, let's put Ron Paul to the side then. What candidate do you think is the best choice?
     
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    #30
    Imagine all you want. He wants to nationalize banks and the steel industry too. And that's just the start. Facts (and history with these types) tell me that he wants complete control over the economy. So, as a small government Ron Paul supporter, you can't logically support government usurping power over the private sector, can you?
     
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    #31
    Who said that?

    And you had 4 democrats who don't believe there is a war on terror. You have at least 1 (maybe 2 or 3) that thing Bush caused 9/11. Which is really more important?

    You know -why- I bring it up, AGS. You believe a theory that was explained to by a guy who believes in lizard aliens. You know it. I know it. Don't hide from it.

    Ron Paul was never in front, so no need to put him to the side ;). My list of candidates I'm for are (in descending order):

    Fred! Thompson
    Duncan Hunter
    Newt Gingrich
    Mitt Romney
    Guiliani

    They lie so well, that you have yet to come up with -any- facts backing up your 9/11 conspiracies. Illuminati nonsense or anything else. You just spew stupid crap that helps you rationalize supporting enemies of your country.
     
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  12. Briant

    Briant Peon

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    #32
    I don't know about the steel and I don't care about every facet of the Venesualan economy, as for the banks:

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul53.html
     
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    #33
    As a "small government" guy promoting a small government candidate in the US, maybe you should research it; then, before blindly thinking that Chavez has anything else in mind besides becoming dictator for life. But, as I said, he is truther, so that does help you excuse theft, so I'm sure it'll help you excuse other things as well.
     
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    #34
    OK smarty let me ask you one question to prove my point and make you look as silly as your point you are trying to make is:

    Do you unequivocally agree 100% with everything that George Bush says?

    Careful how you answer lorien I don't want you digging a bigger hole for yourself.
     
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    #35
    Yeah, Ron Paul is crazy, so crazy he beat the snot out of Mitt Romney and all the other republicans in the debate.

    Ron Paul isn't crazy, he just isn't bought and paid for like the other candidates. The only ammunition you guys have against Ron Paul is his "conspiracy theories," and this has jack to do with his actual policies.

    Ron Paul wants to get rid of the IRS...If thats crazy, well, I must be crazy to. Anyone who doesn't support that is crazy.
     
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  16. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #36
    But no one pays attention because you let alex jones do your thinking. Last remaining hope for what? More terrorist attacks? Pfft!
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #37
    Which is the exact reason those that traditionally push unsubstantiated and non-credible conspiracy theories here are pushing him. Think about it. You've pushed some creepy conspiracies in the past, AGS, Briant. Are there any conspiracy nuts here that are NOT pushing Ron Paul? Something to think about ;)
     
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    #38
    I personally know a wealthy guy who completely disagrees with me on 911 being an inside job. He refuses to believe that the government carried out the attacks. But guess what: He still supports Ron Paul, and he was blown away by the debates.

    He cheered when Ron Paul talked about a smaller government, and getting rid of the income tax. Trust me, Ron Paul is supported by more than just "conspiracy nuts." Anyone who truly wants freedom will support him. Anyone who truly supports the constitution will have no problem with what Ron Paul has to say.

    You see Gtech, this whole thing about "conspiracy theories" are irrelevant. These are his personal beliefs, and they have nothing to do with the policy he actually wants for the country. Attacking Ron Paul for believing in certain theories is like Attacking Giuliani or Barack Obama because they don't believe in evolution(this is an analogy, not a fact). The point is, who cares?

    I believe in evolution personally, but if a political candidate doesn't, but his Policies are in line with my own, whether or not he believes in evolution doesn't matter.
     
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    #39
    It's simple, Tesla. If Ron Paul believes it was an inside job, then he has no credibility to fight the war on terror does he? Nor does he have a good standing to defend this country. Moreover, he is blind to the threat. I'd say its a pretty big deal.

    This is ignoring the fact that he is going to work for government that wants to see Americans dead. And its just not a single administration. Its previous administrations too. It just doesn't make sense.

    AGS, the point is irrelevant. Your buddy says he believes in shape shifting lizards as the origin of the illuminati (or something like that). You can't believe in the illuminati, if you do not believe in shape shifting lizards. If you don't believe in his history of the illuminati, you can't believe in his theory, can you? you don't seem to grasp that simple concept. but you have a history of not grasping simple concepts.
     
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  20. Briant

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    #40
    You guys keep saying this, even though I've repeatedly linked to information disproving it. The question is why? And why should anyone believe anything you post to be other than dubious propaganda?
     
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