Q. Do Muslims believe in the virgin birth of Jesus?

Yes, me and myself. Without him I wouldn't be here and you, for sure, not either, likewise as for all the others here.

 

What a bunch of BS.

 

For somebody like you it must be BS.

Think twice. Where would the world be by now without the character of Jesus Christ's teaching us constantly.
Be honest to yourself, the conclusion is not so difficult to make.

 

World would be a much better place.

 

Good job, you avoided the evidence I provided you by changing the subject and trying to put the pressure back on me to prove something else. Sorry, but I don't feel like playing this game, but I'll counter this last arguement so you don't think you made some kind of point...

I know there are many similarities between Mithra and Jesus. You choose Mithra as the more believable one, and I choose Jesus. I'm curious why you don't use your same anti-Jesus argument againt Mithra though. Because Mithra supposedly came first? This assumption is based on more reliable historical evidence then there is for Jesus? I assume you are willing to accept the historical evidence for Mithra, but not for Jesus? I hope you can at least see your own bias and think about it, 'cause it's pretty obvious to everyone else.

I will at least will admit my own bias. There is nothing that could possibly make me believe Jesus didn't exist and wasn't God, other then God telling me himself. I'm glad there is no real historical reason to doubt it because that might help convince the more skeptical, but it wouldn't even matter to me if there were 20 historical documents suggesting he didn't exist.

The difference is that your bias is there for the sole purpose of not having to admit Jesus was real. In the pursuit of that you will give every religion you can find a better chance at belief. This is most likely based on your bad experience with Christians in your life. My bias is there because of my faith in the Bible due to my own spiritual experiences.

Not that this makes any difference, just thought maybe you'd like to be honest with yourself.

 

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You're making good points, really appreciated.

Gworld is one who hates himself, probably no friends or family too.
He's getting very unreasonable with his arguements and more and more agressive which is a sign of lacking something else. This should not be an excuse for him and I hope and pray for him for a personal visitation of the holy spirit. That's the only thing that will put him streight.

 

The reason is simple; nobody has claimed that Mithra was a real person. Mithra is a kind of God in Persian mythology. The problem with Jesus is the fact that you claim he was real person without any facts to support it. If you said that Jesus was an imaginary semi-God in that time's mythology that has continued to present time, I would have agreed with you since different bible stories, support the existence of such mythology.

 

Your skills at selectively reading what you want and avoiding everything else are amazing.

 

get used to it...he does it in every thread he hijacks...I'm surprised he hasn't started talking about little boys or about people bending over and their rears...gworld is a pedophile after all...

 

gworld is a lost cause. If you look through the 'debate' between him and I, as I refute his claims, he cuts that part out of his post and adds in a different subject to cover up the fact I just shamed his argument.


Do what I did, move on. You can't debate someone with no intelligence.

 

Just the simple fact that you are religious, speaks volumes about your intelligence or in reality lack of it.

Still waiting for one single evidence about the existence of your imaginary friend, Jesus.

 

This speaks volumes about your lack of intelligence.

 

All the religious people are having a hissy fit because they discovered there is no proof for existence of their imaginary friend, Jesus.

 

Yes, that's it Gworld.

 

gworld what do you make of this quote from the imaginary Jesus

" Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass
away. "

Keep in mind that this imaginary Jesus never bothered to write down
a single word yet is responsible for this week's best selling book (as well as every previous week).

So, this imaginary person knew that
1. his words would NEVER go away
2. did NOTHING to make this happen yet
3. it HAPPENED so far for over 2000 years exactly as he said it would.

Could any imaginary person do this ? or any normal person for that matter.

 

What would stop you from being here? Your parents conceived you, and as far as I know that's the only requisite for existance.

Maybe I'm overlooking something?

 

checksum, without the character of Jesus, 99.99% wouldn't be here. Our fathers and forefathers would have vanished in wars, terror and massakers. Think about how far we came with applying the character of Him and think about how fast we're nose-diving with more and more falling appart from his character.

 

Last time I read through a history book there were still plenty of wars in it. Never an account of Jesus stopping one though.

Anyways, your argument is nonsense and I'm unsubscribing from this thread.

 

Nobody said that Christianity as religion doesn't exist. The question is if a person named Jesus that is mentioned in Christian mythology ever existed. He didn't predict anything, you can see the generalization of different themes in many religions and mythology including Judaism, Islam and Buddhism.

 

Jesus teaches true freedom, and true freedom is within yourself. When u can love a complete stranger the same way u can love yourself then u have achieved a great measure of freedom. Loving a complete stranger( your neighbor) was a completely foreign way of thinking up till that point when the pharasees were following the law by the letter. Jesus elevated their hearts to a higher level of love. Now if people lik ethe original settlers would have followed his words none of the indians would have been converted by the sword.
Checksum , jesus gave us freedom of choice(freewill). No matter how many wars a person starts and how he or she hides this from people, god will see this in the end and that person will be judged. True christianity is supposed to be a religion of peace but just like any religion today it can be hijacked, its words can be twisted and used to serve the purpose of war and hate. jesus warned of many false prophets that would do this