Hello all, After long wait meethere decided to hire a hitman to take care of me so to avoid unpleasant death , i have started writing the tutorial for coding phpld template. Sorry but will not go into html coding and psd coding details its end users responsibility to learn them and understand them. http://www.dmoz-resources.com/zone/showthread.php?t=93 Enjoy.
Ha ha, No, I have not hired any hitman ( but yes hired some coder) Thanks for the tutorial.. I am looking at it.. Will the tabled coding generated from photoshop will work ?
Your tutorial will help many people, I am sure. However, it is made in a bit "old fashion" with tables ,styles inside html and direct images. External css would be much better from more than one reason: 1. Cleaner and more accessible code for search engines 2. ones images are loaded, every other page will load instantly regardless of images weight(in kb) 3. More control over layout and other pages and many many more advantages. For example if you want to use image for header(let's say 140x760px) you will have this html: <div id="header"></div> HTML: and this css: #header{ height: 140px; width: 760px; background-image: url(../images/header.gif); background-repeat: no-repeat; } HTML: Also, using tableless layout will also result in cleaner code. You can see some really good premade css layouts at http://www.dynamicdrive.com/style/layouts/ Hope this helps, Marko
Great resource. I have always been trying to learn how to code as I want to do some customed changes with the good templates that comes everyday.
Like i mentioned in tutorial html part you guys have to figure out , i will provide with what code does what, i do not on few templates use tables a lot i use <div's> instead and use only CSS file for any formating i require. @mywebsearches Directory Scripts: Templates and Design Is a separate forum for coders and webmasters to talk about templates for their directories be it phpld , siteexpress or any other directory. Cheers
What do you mean by html part ? Will the tabled coding generated from photoshop will work to start the coding from your steps ?
The output that slicing and dicing going on with photoshop results in images mostly those must be removed and tables or divs put in place. Only experience will help you with that. And can i ask the discussions and questions if any, to remain in http://www.dmoz-resources.com/zone/showthread.php?t=93 Cause those stumbling upon that thread from google might not know what others have already asked. And other coders are welcome to join in and extend the tutorial . @jl255 you can probably provide some insight as to how it all goes , i think its mostly self-learning, just trying to fuel the interest here in more folks to learn and grow. Thats what i do daily , grow and learn. Thanks
Nice tutorial paidhosting. I'm sure it might help some people out there. I think tables can be just as good as css. Call me old fashioned, but I always seem to build my pages using an HTML table layout. I find nothing wrong with it. As with Search Engines, tables or css, either way I think Google will find a way to crawl it and index it properly. Just look at some of the top search results for certain keywords...there are a lot of number one ranked pages using "old fashioned" tables for their site layout. And I really can't comment on your 3rd point. I never really used CSS for layouts, more just for styling of tables, forms, divs, h1, etc. But when it comes to designing phpLD templates, I'm pretty sure CSS or Tables, any type of design can be done the same way. As for deciding whether to use Tables or CSS. Heres a link you might want to check out 02 Tables vs CSS... http://www.decloak.com/Dev/CSSTables/CSS_Tables_02.aspx Cheers, Leopard
Yes they can be but with phpld and how it behaves trust me tables is not really good idea, i had lots of issues with them.
I had no issues yet...the concept is this. If you design a template first on Photoshop using a .psd file, theres always going to be a way to build it using old fashioned HTML tables or CSS.
I think you gave me an idea... I think i will start making "forums" as well as directories thx malcolm
Yes, definitely, pleasse, stay away from tables if u can. You cannot imagine the amount of HEARTACHE it caused me when i needed to make changes to the site and ensure that it always looked right in all browsers and in all formats. You may find that it works ok for one implementation. But wait till u want to improve on it and add more features, mods to your site, your blood will come spilling out....
@ jl255 example check out www.h-log.com , look at higher resolution, see the top links centered in IE but not in FF ? Thats an example of probably tables i used.
Sites you saw ranking good are built like 10 years ago when people still didn't use css. They rank well because of time they are up(very important factor) and because they picked up lot of natural relevant links in that time. That has nothing to do with tables. Tables could work for few pages sites. Imagine you have 1000 pages website and you want to change it. With tables you must edit every single page. With css-only one file. Check out Css Zen Garden to see yourself.