First Republican Debate

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by GTech, May 3, 2007.

  1. AGS

    AGS Notable Member

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    #61
    There are still many doubts over exactly what happened, you're just sprouting the usual lines lorien.

    The reason there are still many questions is because people like you fail to question anything that your beloved Bush says.

    So many questions are still unanswered.

    We will never ever find out the real truth so you can relax, looks like your buddy Bush got away with it this time. We can all take comfort in knowing that as every single year goes by and it becomes ever more apparent how much these bastards lie to us all the time the people will be in a better position to question the next false flag attack.

    The 9/11 false flag has done nothing for the safety of America, all it has done is brought grief to hundreds of families of dead servicemen and women, thousands upon thousands of Iraqis all killed all on the basis of a lie.

    Ask yourself this question one more time lorien: Who benefits?
     
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  2. Briant

    Briant Peon

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    #62
    There needs to be more investigation into what happened because the FBI knew the hijackers were in the US and their warnings were studiously ignored, there needs to be more investigations because there was insider trading before the attacks, shorting airline stocks, that should have been tracked to the source. There needs to be more investigation because Condaleeza Rice testified under oath that the administraton didn't suspect anyone would use airplanes as weapons airplanse as weapons--NORAD knew. There needs to be more investigation because the French intelligence agency warned the US of the impending attacks. There were warnings.

    All that without even talking about mechanisms. They didn't have to be in on it. Maybe this was just dereliction of duty, but if they are that incompetent, they surely don't need to be running a war in Iraq or anywhere else for that matter.


    As for your heath care system being nationalized, GB has his drug prescription plan. There is this take over of education, so it will be uniformly bad (of course they won't say that).

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/reports/no-child-left-behind.html

    The republican party is not conservative. It's statist and imperialist.
     
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  3. Toopac

    Toopac Peon

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    #63
    You can't use that as the main point of any argument, proof is not who benefits:rolleyes:
     
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  4. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #64
    Definitely. Some people just don't have the mental discipline to accept Occam's Razor.

    I love how the weasels scream "why didn't the government stop it" at the same time as they try to deny the government any tools, authority, or funding to prevent or reduce further attacks.
     
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  5. AGS

    AGS Notable Member

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    #65
    The disaster out in Iraq is not helping the cause Will. The serious amount of money and lives wasted out there has done absolutely nothing to prevent terrorism on US soil. The reason there has not been another major attack on the US mainland since 9/11 is because Bush and his corrupt cabal have decided not to do another false flag.

    The only reason your hero has put all these people in harms way is because he wants to establish a permanent occupation of a very very oil rich country, you can carry on bleating the mantra that it is to prevent attacks on the US but most people with half a brain can easily figure out that that is complete BS.

    The longer your corrupt hero lies to everyone the more people needlessly get killed. That's the bottom line.

    I expect that Bush is actually amazed at how many stupid people back him today, even after all the many lies have been exposed.
     
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  6. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #66
    Every question of -yours- (specifically) has been answered. More than a few times. You just run away like a girl when presented with facts. You are not serious in this discussion, AGS. When you decide to start replying to the facts we present, I'll take you seriously. Until then, you are just jumping through hoops to help you support the ridiculuous things you believe.

    I even challenged you a few times, on this forum, to debate this and you never replied. Obviously, you have no faith in your own stupid little 9/11 theories if you will not answer facts presented to you; nor intelligently discuss it. You just want to lob baseless accusations.

    I never said I support the plans you mention. I thought it was a bad move actually. Generally GWB is bad on domestic issues; save the tax cuts. His education bill was written by Ted Kennedy. Says it all right there.
     
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  7. Jackuul

    Jackuul Well-Known Member

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    #67
    I say aliens took down the towers in their UFO's, and they are a part of the Illuminati that controls the government. Them and the Dolphins who had JFK assassinated.
     
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  8. Briant

    Briant Peon

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    #68
    I think the whole point is they had everything they needed to stop the 9/11 attacks, and didn't.

    And Occam's razor? The simplest explanation is that the Bush administration is completely inept, thus needs to be removed posthaste.
     
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  9. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #69
    I think Briant and AGS are proving my initial points for me. Look at this thread. It went from Paul to 9/11 in a few posts. This is not a recipe for victory in 2008. Then again; I think that's the point of supporting Paul.
     
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  10. AGS

    AGS Notable Member

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    #70
    It is fruitless debating with you sheeple as you are so brainwashed by the MSM that if they told you the moon was made of cheese you would believe it, even O'Reilly would do a feature on it in his "No Spin Spin Zone." :D

    The worse culprits are you, Will, GTech and d16man (also TWOPACKS but I have him on ignore because he is completely insane.)

    The bottom line is this, you will insist that everything that we were told by our trusted hero's in charge is the truth, I will say it isn't because these bastards lie all the time.
    You will claim to debunk all my claims usually using some half-arsed website like that Perry guys website GTech digs out in times of desperation and we get nowhere.

    You think 19 hijackers pulled off the biggest terror attack in history, I say that is bollocks.

    Therefore we have an impasse.
     
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  11. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #71
    The only impasse is your denial of reality AGS. But, you can believe whatever you want. The water is blissfully calm at your pool of ignorance.
     
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  12. Briant

    Briant Peon

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    #72
    How did that happen? Take a look at the thread, then take a look in the mirror :D
     
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  13. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #73
    No joke. But look at you; having to defend him from the point. I don't have to defend any other republican from trutherism. You have to defend Paul from it. Says a lot, now, doesn't it?
     
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  14. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #74
    That is 100% separated from reality.

    There is simply no way to reliably prevent terrorist attacks -- except for killing all potential terrorists ahead of time.

    The Muslims snuck boxcutters onto the airplane. Your argument is that it's the Presidents job to search all airline passengers? :rolleyes:

    Let's face it, bad people will always find ways to cause trouble.

    All you can reasonably do is make absolutely certain that the bad guys do not benefit from this sort of behavior. When people behave badly, they must be punished -- not rewarded. Every terrorist attack from the Islamists should result in serious pain for the Islamists. This will teach the bastards to police their own bad actors.
     
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  15. Briant

    Briant Peon

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    #75
    I already posted the problems with their "we didn't know nothin'" shtick--FBI warnings, warnings from foreign intelligence agencies, insider trading, NORAD drills, etc.
     
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  16. Briant

    Briant Peon

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    #76
    You bring it up and then say, "You have to defend Paul from it. Says a lot, now, doesn't it?"

    Now that's just odd :confused:
     
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  17. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #77
    No, it's not odd.

    It is much the same as me saying: Hillary wants to raise our taxes.
    You say: yes; and this is why.

    It's the same thing. Just one is indefensible (9/11) and apparently you realize it enough to draw attention to it.

    Does this help?
     
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  18. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #78
    And every time new warnings come out, people like AGS (and probably Briant too) whimper and whine about how unfair it is that muslims are "framed" for another plot.

    Some people are just whiners. Give them what they want, whine, do what's right, whine. The only thing they apparently do not whine about, is terrorists.

    Have to agree with Lorien too. I've watched him and Latehorn, time and again, attempt rational and reasonable debate with AGS over the questions he copies/pastes from other's sites and when common sense prevails, AGS runs away every time.

    Then later, tries for the victim role by suggesting in words to the affect that "sheep" believe every line the government tells them (this is his shield from is own belief in everything alex jones and john conners tells him), then tries to hide behind the mask of asking questions that have been answered time and time and time again.

    This, my friends, is the very definition of delusion. THE *very* definition...of delusion.

    I can't imagine anyone wanting to do business with someone like AGS. I know I wouldn't do business with someone who exudes dishonesty.
     
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  19. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #79
    Blahahahahahaha... that's laughable.

    No one needs or benefits from terrorist warnings -- isn't that the message we get from all you liberals who complain endlessly about the new terrorism alert system.

    And hell -- who needs to be told "Muslims hijack airplanes." That's not exactly news, the sheet heads have been doing that since the 1970's.

    And you know what? No one has ever figured out a way to stop it from happening.

    What idiocy. Next time, think before you post.
     
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  20. Jackuul

    Jackuul Well-Known Member

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    #80
    Dolphins did it! Damn porpoises!
     
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