First Republican Debate

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by GTech, May 3, 2007.

  1. sadcox

    sadcox Peon

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    #41
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    1. People are beginning to know who he is. Yes, he's being painted as a kook by some in big media, and ignored by others, but when what he says in a debate makes sense, that's all that matters. Ross Perot actually was a kook, and look what he did.

    2. You may be right there. People don't want truth and intellect. They want feel good and emotion.

    3. I support him, and if the GOP would move in his direction I would fully support them. The problem is, they won't. Fred Thompson is waiting in the wings, laughing his arse off, waiting to swoop in and pick up the pieces.
     
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  2. Jackuul

    Jackuul Well-Known Member

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    #42
    And I want to see the U.S. become a world dictatorial government with a powerhouse economy that never stops and more freedoms given back with a more strict-to-the-constitution government TO SPITE YOU.
     
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  3. Briant

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    #43
    Everyone always says so-and-so is unelectable. Guess what...I don't care. Keep voting for the same high fructose corn syrup pepsi and coke candidates--look where that's gotten you.

    As for a truther, here's a video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW4DgZH8PJM

    He's sckeptical of the government, but I don't see why he's a nut.

    And who cares about the GOP. Parties are not real entities, the people are.

    The establishment seems worried. The internet is on fire and they can't totally control debate anymore. Hopefully a breakthrough can happen before they find a way to shut down the net.
     
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  4. AGS

    AGS Notable Member

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    #44
    They are indeed worried buddy. The controlled TV mainstream media is slowly losing its control over the sheeple. That is why Intenet 2 is their next plan of action.

    Of course some internet savvy peeps like GTech and lorien1973 are still under their spellbinding control but thankfully a lot of sheeple are starting to wake up. :)
     
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  5. demosfen

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    #45
    Some of us in the know will make a killing, just like some people did in 1930s and during run up of gold in 1970's.
     
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  6. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #46
    No one is worried about Ron Paul. Again, the only reason any of the moonbats care about a Republican is because he's a conspiracy nut. Conspiracy nuts draw other nuts; pure and simple. And then pretend others can't see it! It's SO entertaining :D
     
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  7. Toopac

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    #47
    GTech hit's the nail on the head again:)
     
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  8. d16man

    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #48
    so that explains why AGS has so many followers...
     
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  9. Briant

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    #49
    They hate dissent hence the treatment of M Nabil and others (they will justify this--just ask). These are dangerous people (really their overlords are)...defending torture, trying to block dissent, etc. Hopefully, people wake up and realized what these people are about.
     
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  10. AGS

    AGS Notable Member

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    #50
    Many of the sheeple here are complete lost causes but very slowly but surely members of the public both here in the UK, over in the States and indeed the rest of the world are slowly starting to figure it out.

    All the lies these arseholes in charge of us tell us yet these damn fools still defend them. :confused:

    Unbelievable it is matey. :rolleyes:
     
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  11. Briant

    Briant Peon

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  12. Toopac

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    #52
    All governments lie, get over it or end your own life if it bothers you that much. However governments don't plot terror attacks on their own country or all the other things you believe in that is just wacky, you get all your ideas from Alex Jones & Rosie o'donnell.
     
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  13. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #53
    True dat.

    Ron Paul has some very ardent followers, but they are such a small minority as to be irrelevant in the primaries.

    I do enjoy the fact that they bring up some good points to keep us thinking.
     
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  14. AGS

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    #54
    Around one year ago I exposed an FBI mole on www.ebaumsworld.com forums mate.

    I debated long and hard with the guy, he was of course far more intelligent than any of the Bush supporting sheeple here but the funny thing was that within 1 week of outing the rotter I was banned.

    It certainly was not for swearing or anything like that because at the time anything was allowed language wise on that forum.

    I did entertain the idea that we might have a similar thing here in this P&R but none of the Bush backers here are intelligent enough, they just parrot the BS that they are told by the mainstream media via the Bush cabal.
     
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  15. Briant

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    #55
    BTW, all this "Ron Paul is a nutter" talk and attempts to associate him with all manner of conspiracy theories is getting old. I guess it's all you can do though with no credible positions to argue :confused:

    This guy pretty much sums it up.

    http://www.ronpaulunexposed.com/

    I have seen it on other forums. People who seem to have the talking points down, and no matter what you say they defend "X" point (and seem to have prefab posts--with tons of links). And yes most of them are somewhat sophistocated. Maybe digital point is just a training ground for them to hone their skills :D
     
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  16. Briant

    Briant Peon

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    #56
    I have seen it on other forums. People who seem to have the talking points down, and no matter what you say they defend "X" point (and seem to have prefab posts--with tons of links). And yes most of them are somewhat sophistocated. Maybe digital point is just a training ground for them to hone their skills :D
     
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  17. lorien1973

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    #57
    No one says Ron Paul doesn't make good points. He has good positions on a lot of issues. But, his 9/11 truther stance is an instant disqualification. That he even gives times to the 9/11 for troooth people is infuriating. Truthers are stupid and uniformed (look at AGS - he can't even defend what he believes). Giving backrubs to truthers makes him not a serious candidate. Even if I agree with someone on 99% of other issues; if they are a truther or exhibit truthiness, they are kooks and nuts.

    He's short sighted in his foreign policy as well. Domestically, I don't have a lot of problems with him. But I don't know all of his stances to make a complete decision that. He's not a top tier candidate, so other than adding some platform points for the top tier candidates, his candidacy is next to irrelevant.

    But, let's face facts. No one knows who he is. It's too late for name recognition. He's a truther, again, this is a death sentence - especially in the primaries. He comes off as a kook. Watch the debate, he looked out of place and some of this answers were a little weird.

    It's undeniable that the people who support him want the republicans to lose in 2008. AGS - already "knows" hillary will win (the illuminati told him), but supports Paul now. Can Paul beat Hillary? Of course not. Look - down the line - of people who support him here, Digg, elsewhere - they are all wanting the republicans to lose in 2008.

    Are Ron Paul supporters republicans? Do they vote in the primaries? Probably not; on both counts. So they don't matter.

    I confess. My check from the VRWC comes in monthly. I perpetuate enough myths, that eventually it'll become weekly instead. It's nice being part of the disinformation machine. :rolleyes:
     
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  18. Will.Spencer

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    #58
    That would make it after your alien abduction and before you discovered "the truth" about the Illuminati?
     
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  19. Briant

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    #59
    I already posted the youtube video of Ron Paul talking to the Students for 9/11 Truth group. He basically told them he thought there was need for further investigation. He didn't go on about missiles hitting the Pentagon and controlled demolishtions and I seriously doubt you can find any links where he get into these things. He is right about more investigations being needed when there was ample evidence that 9/11 was going to happen, and there is at least gross incompetency that seems to have not been dealt with.

    As far as being an unknown, the man has been in congress for years, and his views are well know. Just because the sheeple don't know who he is doesn't mean they can't learn, but if they can't, none of this matters anyway.

    http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/p000583/

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Paul

    http://www.americansforronpaul.com/issues.html

    So you think Giuliani will beat Hillary? To what end?
     
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  20. lorien1973

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    Exactly. Investigation into what? All the evidence is out there. He doesn't have to go into anything at all, pubicly. A plane hit the pentagon. Flight 93 (or whatever it was) hit the pentagon. 2 planes hit the towers. A plane was hijacked then crashed in pottsville. There is no logical defense for believing otherwise. No facts contradict this. Some trooth maybe, inuendo. We know who the hijackers were, we have some on video saying they were gonna do it. There is nothing to be learned; other than why aren't we profiling more?

    Saying that there should be more investigation into "what happened" is just code for trutherism. We know what happened. Some simply face to deny reality.

    So; he's a non-starter. A kook.

    Yeah. Cuz everyone follows the views of some representative from a different state. That's how I spend my free time. I know all about the Vermont-1 Representative (son of a bitch, I hate him).

    To not surrendering, to not having the healthcare system nationalized, to not having our taxes raised, better judge picks. Rudy isn't my candidate, I don't care for him for a lot of reasons. But Paul isn't the man. I'm sorry I have to break that news to you.
     
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